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Passengers duct tape man who allegedly tried to open door during American Airlines flight to Texas (www.nbcnews.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

Passengers on an American Airlines flight from Milwaukee to Dallas-Fort Worth restrained a Canadian man with duct tape after he allegedly attempted to open a cabin door mid-flight, claiming he was the “captain” and needed to exit.

The man became aggressive, injuring a flight attendant as he rushed toward the door.

Several passengers, including Doug McCright and Charlie Boris, subdued him, using duct tape to secure his hands and ankles.

Authorities detained the man upon landing, and the incident remains under investigation.

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[–] Apytele 96 points 1 month ago (42 children)

The passenger was seen lying on his stomach with his hands behind his back bound as well as his ankles with duct tape, the report said.

So for future reference, especially for those of you who do such things recreationally, facedown restraint is very risky from a respiratory standpoint, especially with the limbs back in the hogtie position, that is how the cops kill people (I would say accidentally except they have enough education on the topic to preclude that). But ultimately I'm mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That's the obvious first priority there. Damn.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But ultimately I'm mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That's the obvious first priority there. Damn.

It’s physically impossible to open a door on an airplane during most stages of the flight. The door first needs to move inward before opening, and the pressure differential is absurd. The handle would break long before you’d open the door. The only time it’s really possible is near the ground as you’re coming in to land or taking off (which did happen recently).

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Boeing aircraft have this safety feature where it fucking immediately falls off so you can always get out if you are the Captain and need to escape from the bad duct tape wielders.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm going to trust that you're correct.

But I'm still going to duct tape the psychopath for everyone's safety, including the psychopath.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's not true on every plane.

Typically for doors that don't open inward first, they have interlocks.

For example, the over wing doors on a 737ng don't open inward, they are actually spring loaded on a hinge and swing directly outward, there is a locking pawl that engages and disengages automatically under specific circumstances, requiring the squat switches on the landing gear to be engaged and the throttles to be in an idle position.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Toothbrush

Headphones

Neck pillow

DUCT TAPE.

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[–] tquid 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I understand the need to neutralize the threat but duct taping someone to Texas is just cruel

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Truly a punishment that doesn’t fit the crime.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Assuming it wasn't a Boeing, he wouldn't have been able to get the door open, so at least they weren't in any real danger.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, not from the door opening, you are right (pressure difference and such). But he already injured a flight attendant, so I guess he wasn't going to say "oh well it doesn't open, I tried, I'll sit down quietly now".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wasn't meaning to suggest that. Just that he wasn't endangering everyone on the plane.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Well, not everyone at the same time, just one at a time! Lol

I understand what you mean, I'm just kidding.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Tbf, being with a violently aggressive person in a tight enclosed space is still risky regardless

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That depends on where in the flight he tried to open the door. The article says mid flight but that could mean anything.

Above 10,000 ft he wouldn't be able to open the door because of the pressure difference but below that and he would have no problems since the cabin isn't pressurized and the doors aren't locked with any key or anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Depends on the aircraft. In a 737 the doors drop pins once the takeoff roll begins. He wouldn’t be able to physically open the door at that point.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because of the way this headline is phrased, I am forced to assume that "who allegedly tried to open door during American Airlines flight" is a clause, and that the passengers duct taped this man to the state of Texas.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The year is 2024. Publications no longer need to save headline space by ignoring common punctuation usage. Why do they still do this?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why is duct tape easily available on the airplanes then normal rope to tie? Are the airplanes required to use the duct tape in an emergency case?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

2 things

when it's an airplane we call it speed tape and its used all over the aircraft, mostly by maintenance, to keep the plane together. Don't worry about it.
This probably wasn't duct tape anyway, but special tape for passenger restraint, similar to zip ties, that is stored on board for use in this type of situation

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

when it’s an airplane we call it speed tape and its used all over the aircraft, mostly by maintenance, to keep the plane together. Don’t worry about it.

...prior to this comment, I hadn't.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

There is duct tape carried on some commercial airliners.

This is not the same as speed tape, and aluminum tape is not generally carried on airliners. That stays with the mechanics.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Duct tape is used on airplanes all the time, so it's readily available & multi-purpose. While it looks super sketchy, it's actually pretty decent for a temporary fix until a proper repair can be implemented. Sometimes they're criticized for leaving the temporary duct tape fixes on far too long. 🙃🙃🙃🙃

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 8 points 1 month ago

It's 100% true. Nothin more permanent than a temporary fix

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why would an airplane need regular rope?

Alternatively, duct tape might have been something the passengers had on hand so they didn’t have to request something from staff

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

including Doug McCright and Charlie Boris

Should I know these guys?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Something tells me he was not the captain. But I'll wait for all the facts to come out before I rush to judgement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Good thinkin, Cap!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

They duct taped him TO TEXAS?!?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

There was a CSI episode with a situation similar to this. Of course, since it's CSI, the way that turned out was the mentally ill person was killed (and the episode was about the passengers/crew subtly covering for each other).

Nice case of how in real life, people avoid harm when possible, and in fiction, people are all secretly ruthless savages out for each other's blood.

Oh; I should say, in fiction, and for police, who similarly live in fiction-land.