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The Agora

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In the spirit of the Ancient Greek Agora, we invite you to join our vibrant community - a contemporary meeting place for the exchange of ideas, inspired by the practices of old. Just as the Agora served as the heart of public life in Ancient Athens, our platform is designed to be the epicenter of meaningful discussion and thought-provoking dialogue.

Here, you are encouraged to speak your mind, share your insights, and engage in stimulating discussions. This is your opportunity to shape and influence our collective journey, just like the free citizens of Athens who gathered at the Agora to make significant decisions that impacted their society.

You're not alone in your quest for knowledge and understanding. In this community, you'll find support from like-minded individuals who, like you, are eager to explore new perspectives, challenge their preconceptions, and grow intellectually.

Remember, every voice matters and your contribution can make a difference. We believe that through open dialogue, mutual respect, and a shared commitment to discovery, we can foster a community that embodies the democratic spirit of the Agora in our modern world.

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Hey all,

As discussed here, I am looking for 3 new moderators to help with this community.

Please review this post and vote for the candidate you would like to see help on this community.

In no particular order, the candidates are:

I invite you to review users post history when deciding on voting.

This thread will be open for 72 hours (until Friday June 23rd, 8PM ET) at which point voting will stop. Any votes after this time will not be counted. I will try to lock this thread after that time so people do not accidentally continue voting.

Everyone gets 1 vote, including the users being considered. The top 3 will be given mod powers of this community to help with organization of discussions and votes.

Please vote by calling the persons name. For example, if I you wanted to vote for TheDude you would reply with: TheDude

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[–] annegreen 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@[email protected]

Hey, it’s me! For what it’s worth, I’m excited to see this community grow and would be happy to be a part of the mod team helping guide it. Either way, I’m looking forward to seeing what’s next for this community. I don’t have a lot of experience with online moderation, but I do a lot of conflict resolution and strategy, which I feel are valuable skills for a moderator. If you choose me for a mod, I commit to helping make sure this instance and this community hold to their original vision of being friendly, chill, and democratic. I feel like I’ve already been able to bring some valuable contributions to the table, like the idea to use the [vote] format, and I believe I’ve got a lot more to offer the community. Thanks!

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[–] WillOfTheWest 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Yea @imaqtpie, Yea @annegreen, Yea @Seraph089.

From account history they have good engagement.

Nay @Apytele, Nay @sweetholymosiah.

Limited engagement. Can't really comment on them yet.

Nay @goat, Nay @difficult_bit_1339.

Actively enshittening Agora and flame warring since its inception. @goat is evidently some manner of troll and "controversy" isn't a selling point for moderation. This is an alt for his burggit account; he's butted heads with admins over there because not allowing gore isn't "free".

[–] goat 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That wasn't my argument at all.

My entire argument on burggit was that I found it hypocritical for the admins there to be banning gore-related content because they personally found it unsavory, while still allowing Loli-content which many others find equally unsavory and many who have asked them to tone it down.

Your link is broken, this is the link to my Burggit account (Be warned, Burggit has Loli porn and content similar to it)

Controversy isn't a selling point of moderation in most cases, true. However, the prime function of Agora is to encourage diverse debate, even when that means challenging views you disagree with. Having a bias in moderation will cause nothing but a multitude of issues down the line.

As for "flamewarring" -- I don't insult other members or tell them they're wrong, despite often being the crux of insults and ridicule myself. I believe I've proven that I can handle being challenged, something that most other candidates have not shown yet (with the exception of Imaq and Bit, of course)

You can also only vote once.


Your vote will be thrown out if you don't narrow it down, I recommend @[email protected]

[–] WillOfTheWest 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My entire argument on burggit...

Your argument was that an unsavoury instance was against hosting your personal flavour of unsavoury content; hence you felt the need to browbeat instead of simply finding a better instance.

This appears to be your main method of "engagement" in discussion: incessantly hammer on your point, making persistent bad-faith invitations to "debate," then when you rile up the user to the point of them flaming you, you claim that you're remaining civil. It's called sealioning, it's a common enough trolling phenomenon that there exists an often cited web-comic about it..

Co-existing in a space isn't an open invitation for you to repeatedly argue the same point past a persons point of comfort, for the sake of your personal definition of "debate". When it's clear the debate has run its course and the person is clearly being emotionally effected, if you persist then you're acting in bad faith.

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[–] imaqtpie 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

imaqtpie

My first order of business would be developing a more organized way of voting here. No offense to TheDude, he's got a lot on his plate.

[–] annegreen 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Agreed. I think we need to separate the discussion from the vote. It’s confusing to have amendments take place on voting posts as discussion develops. We also need clear parameters on how to draft a vote and then how the vote gets resolved.

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[–] Trekman10 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(Limiting the vote to 1 person and not allowing us to rank is severly limiting, especially for a consensus-based community decision making system as what I remember being described in the post that announced the creation of the Agora.)

@[email protected] I support, while Goat's method of engagement I think is fine for a member of the community but isn't mod-material. Not a chill dude, and seeing how people have reacted to him already he would be starting from a position of adversity with too much of the community.

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[–] Seraph089 7 points 1 year ago

Seraph089

Of course I'll vote for myself, but I'm happy to see that it's a close race. Win or lose, I'll be here trying my best to help our budding democracy flourish.

[–] kukkurovaca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vote: imaqtpie

Additional commentary: goat in particular seems based on activity to be trolling/sealioning/derailing discussions

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[–] saltysel 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hard to pick...do you go purely off engagement? The fact some actually Moderate something already? Computer knowledge? Vibes?

I'll do a bit of everything and go Apytele

@[email protected]

Let's go feral, but be flaky about it.

[–] gloss 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] PastAlternatives 4 points 1 year ago

Aye @iamqtpie, aye @annegreen aye @Seraph089

[–] Oni_eyes 4 points 1 year ago
[–] god 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Difficult_Bit_1339

I read a few profiles, i like this one more: @[email protected]

that's my vote

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@[email protected] gets my vote. Though @Difficult_[email protected] is a really close second, wish we could vote for more than one candidate.

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[–] Randomocity 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] 0jcis 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Whooping_Seal 3 points 1 year ago

imaqtpie

Is my vote

[–] haxe11 3 points 1 year ago

@Difficult_[email protected]

If I could vote for more, I'd also vote for imaqtpie and annegreen.

[–] Anduck 3 points 1 year ago
[–] TheDailyChase 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Barbarian 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hard to choose between seraph089 and apytele. Both active in the Agora (an important qualification), both with well thought-out comments there that I think show they're putting real serious thought into the community...

I flipped a coin between them, it said @[email protected].

EDIT: Just went more seriously through Difficult_Bit_1339's comment history, should have been a d3 :P Plenty of votes for them though, so I'll stick with my vote.

EDIT2: Oh, I'm dumb, should probably do my vote as a separate comment so it's easier to count.

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[–] Kecessa 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Difficult_Bit_1339 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Difficult_[email protected]

I'll vote for me of course, or abstain, either way.

e: added name in case TheDude is scraping comments.

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