this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
264 points (94.6% liked)

Asklemmy

43796 readers
729 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

If you think this is just for the next 4 years, you're fooling yourself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I hate this reality, but remember that in 1950, Black Americans were literally being lynched. I don't think a trump presidency is worse than that or even nearly as bad, at least not this soon. If dems dont win the midterms and get a 2028 trifecta we might have a problem.

Remember, the US has federalism. Power is shared between the states and the federal government. The federal government dont have the manpower to literally put people in concentration camps, not yet.

If you live in a red state or red city, move, now. Move to a Blue State and Blue City.

Federalism is our last defence against fascism. Democracy might be dying, but it aint dead yet. The Climate however, thats another story :(

Only thing an average person can do is try to get people to vote, midterms, presidential, local. Every election Primary or General. Low turnout in Primary could lead to disasterous candidates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

The American concentration camps will be much worse than the Jim Crow era.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

my dad always taught me not to let the workings of the world affect my personal mood

even if the world is going to shit, you can carve out a little slice of life for yourself and the people you love. take care of those people, take care of what you own, do the things you're passionate about and let God worry about the rest

and I say that as an atheist. it's a metaphor

[–] ObsidianNebula 9 points 1 day ago

Plenty of great advice here, but one more thing to think about is how such a large win for Republicans can be used against them a bit in the future. They won the Presidency and have majorities in the Senate, likely the House, the Supreme Court, and governorships. They have free reign to do what they want, which is scary, but it also means that they can't blame the Democrats for any bad things that may happen in the next 2 years until the midterms.

Any law that passes with bad outcomes is solely their fault. If the economy gets worse, it's all on them. If the deficit increases, they are the only ones to blame. If they don't fulfill their campaign promises, it's because they chose not to. If there is a government shutdown, it's because they couldn't agree on a budget. If bills aren't being passed, they are arguing too much. They can't even fall back on blaming the Democrats in the Senate because they have enough votes that they could cancel the filibuster while they are in office and reinstate it before they leave.

This means that you, and everyone else, can point out anything the government does that has a negative impact and say definitively that it is entirely the fault of the Republicans. If this is done frequently enough and loud enough, there may be enough frustrated voters to change the outcome the next time around. They will definitely do things that annoy almost every voter, whether they are going too far or not far enough in their agenda, and they can't hide that it was only them that made those decisions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The Senate does not have a filibuster-proof majority. They could potentially end the filibuster, but given that it’s the Republicans’ favorite tactic, there’s a decent chance they might not. Especially since the less extreme Republicans can use it as an excuse to let bills they don’t like die without having to vote against the.

The House margin is likely to be thin enough that the moderate Republicans will vote down the crazies. So even if the Senate ends the filibuster, the most egregiously stupid laws should still be stoppable.

Trump still has the ability to do a lot of damage, and he probably will. But if the Republicans piss off people too quickly, they’re likely to tank in 2026, with there being a decent chance to turn both the House and Senate blue and lame duck Trump for the rest of his presidency.

It’s going to be rough, but do not abandon hope.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The only way out of this situation is through.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

One thing I know I'm going to be doing is reading "Mutual Aid: Building Solidarity During This Crisis (and the Next)" by Dean Spade. From the first two paragraphs of the first chapter:

Mutual aid projects expose the reality that people do not have what they need and propose that we can address this injustice together. The most famous example in the United States is the Black Panther Party’s survival programs, which ran throughout the 1960s and 1970s, including a free breakfast program, free ambulance program, free medical clinics, a service offering rides to elderly people doing errands, and a school aimed at providing a rigorous liberation curriculum to children. The Black Panther programs welcomed people into the liberation struggle by creating spaces where they could meet basic needs and build a shared analysis about the conditions they were facing. Instead of feeling ashamed about not being able to feed their kids in a culture that blames poor people, especially poor Black people, for their poverty, people attending the Panthers’ free breakfast program got food and a chance to build shared analysis about Black poverty. It broke stigma and isolation, met material needs, and got people fired up to work together for change.

Recognizing the program’s success, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover famously wrote in a 1969 memo sent to all field offices that “the BCP [Breakfast for Children Program] represents the best and most influential activity going for the BPP [Black Panther Party] and, as such, is potentially the greatest threat to efforts by authorities to neutralize the BPP and destroy what it stands for.” The night before the Chicago program was supposed to open, police broke into the church that was hosting it and urinated on all of the food. The government’s attacks on the Black Panther Party are evidence of mutual aid’s power, as is the government’s co-optation of the program: in the early 1970s the US Department of Agriculture expanded its federal free breakfast program—built on a charity, not a liberation, model—that still feeds millions of children today. The Black Panthers provided a striking vision of liberation, asserting that Black people had to defend themselves against a violent and racist government, and that they could organize to give each other what a racist society withheld.

People in your community already need help. You and your friends can start building a mutual aid network today, one that can help queer people, black people, and women in need. You can decide what kind of aid you can provide. Maybe you're offering rides to airports to women who need to travel out of state for medical care. Perhaps you're providing safe places and spaces for the Trans population in your area. Whatever it is, you'll feel more connected and more in control of your community, and put out a positive influence within it.

Along the way, you should also try and educate yourself so that you can educate others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Treat it like nuclear fallout. Everything sucks right now. So much life is going to be oppressed. But eventually it will end, and we can begin rebuilding.

[–] Noel_Skum 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t know… revel in the fact that you are living (so far) through an event that could be epoch defining? Not everybody gets a front seat to history. That’s, uh, about all I’ve got for now. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In times of struggle, it becomes more important than ever to get organized and read theory.

[–] Noel_Skum 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any particular theory you have in mind, if you don’t mind me asking?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How familiar are you with leftist theory? I'm openly a Marxist-Leninist, I have an introductory reading list targeting general inquirers, but I don't know what specific questions you have so I can't give targeted recommendations.

Do you want the general list, do you have any questions about Marxism, or do you have specific interests in specific questions about theory? I'll do my best to help.

With no other information, my go-to is Blackshirts and Reds. It helps us understand what fascism is, who it serves, where it comes from, and how to banish it forever. It also explains how Communism and Fascism are mortal enemies.

[–] Noel_Skum 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks. I’m passingly familiar with Lenin and the New Economic Policy but I’d like to better understand the key differences to Marx’s Communist theory that it had/s. Also, without wanting to be controversial, a good piece about China. Is it Marxist / Communist or not - or is it more complicated than that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Excellent questions.

Lenin isn't a divergence from Marxism, Lenin is an application of Marxism to the era of Imperialism, with more clear analysis of Monopolist syndicates based on empirical evidence. The NEP isn't a divergence from Marxism. Critically, Marxists believe that Capitalism gives way to Socialism because markets coalesce into Monopolist Syndicates over time, prepping themselves for central planning and public ownership. Russia was underdeveloped, it did not have these monopolist syndicates, the NEP allowed markets under State control to exist and naturally form these syndicates. Arguably, Stalin ended the NEP too early, which is an entirely different nuanced argument.

Why Public Property? as well as Productive Forces are two excellent essays on the subject of Scientific Socialism.

The PRC is Marxist-Leninist, or more accurately Socialist with Chinese Characteristics. The PRC "traps" its private sector in a birdcage model and, following the previous statements, increases ownership as monopolist syndicates form. Half the economy is publicly owned and centrally planned, with a tenth in the cooperative sector.

Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism is another fantastic essay on the subject.

"Without Revolutionary theory, there can be no Revolutionary Movement."

It's time to read theory, comrades! As Lenin says, "Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle." Reading theory helps us identify the core contradictions within modern society, analyze their trajectories, and gives us the tools to break free. Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components, as noted by Lenin in his pamphlet The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism: | Audiobook

  1. Dialectical and Historical Materialism

  2. Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value

  3. Advocacy for Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism

As such, I created the following list to take you from no knowledge whatsoever of Leftist theory, and leave you with a strong understanding of the critical fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism in an order that builds up as you read. Let's get started!

Section I: Getting Started

What the heck is Communism, anyways? For that matter, what is fascism?

  1. Friedrich Engels' Principles of Communism | Audiobook

The FAQ of Communism, written by the Luigi of the Marx & Engels duo. Quick to read, and easy to reference, this is the perfect start to your journey.

  1. Michael Parenti's Blackshirts and Reds | Audiobook

Breaks down fascism and its mortal enemy, Communism, as well as their antagonistic relationship. Understanding what fascism is, where and when it rises, why it does so, and how to banish it forever is critical. Parenti also helps debunk common anti-Communist myths, from both the "left" and the right, in a quick-witted writing style. This is also an excellent time to watch the famous "Yellow Parenti" speech.

Section II: Historical and Dialectical Materialism

Ugh, philosophy? Really? YES!

  1. Georges Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy | Audiobook

By far my favorite primer on Marxist philosophy. By understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism-Leninism. Don't be intimidated!

  1. Friedrich Engels' Socialism: Utopian and Scientific | Audiobook

Further reading on Dialectical and Historical Materialism, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, explaining how Capitalism itself prepares the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates. This is also where Engels talks about the failures of previous "Utopian" Socialists.

Section III: Political Economy

That's right, it's time for the Law of Value and a deep-dive into Imperialism. If we are to defeat Capitalism, we must learn it's mechanisms, tendencies, contradictions, and laws.

  1. Karl Marx's Wage Labor and Capital | Audiobook as well as Wages, Price and Profit | Audiobook

Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value. Marx is targetting those not trained in economics here, but you might want to keep a pen and some paper to follow along if you are a visual person.

  1. Vladimir Lenin's Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism | Audiobook

Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions. Marxist-Leninists understand that Imperialism is the greatest contradiction in the modern era, which cascades downward into all manner of related contradictions. Knowing what dying Capitalism looks like, and how it behaves, means we can kill it.

Section IV: Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism

Can we defeat Capitalism at the ballot box? What about just defeating fascism? What about the role of the state?

  1. Rosa Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution | Audiobook

If Marxists believed reforming Capitalist society was possible, we would be the first in line for it. Sadly, it isn't possible, which Luxemburg proves in this monumental writing.

  1. Vladimir Lenin's The State and Revolution | Audiobook

Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, without needing to be replaced with one that is run by the workers, in their own interests.

Section V: Intersectionality and Solidarity

The revolution will not be fought by atomized individuals, but by an intersectional, international working class movement. Intersectionality is critical, because it allows different marginalized groups to work together in collective interest, unifying into a broad movement.

  1. Vikky Storm and Eme Flores' The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto | (No Audiobook yet)

Critical reading on understanding misogyny, transphobia, enbyphobia, pluralphobia, and homophobia, as well as how to move beyond the base subject of "gender." Uses the foundations built up in the previous works to analyze gender theory from a Historical Materialist perspective.

  1. Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth | Audiobook

De-colonialism is essential to Marxism. Without having a strong, de-colonial, internationalist stance, we have no path to victory nor a path to justice. Fanon analyzes Colonialism's dehumanizing effects, and lays out how to form a de-colonial movement, as well as its necessity.

  1. Leslie Feinberg's Lavender & Red | Audiobook

Solidarity and intersectionality are the key to any social movement. When different social groups fight for liberation together along intersectional lines, the movements are emboldened and empowered ever-further.

Section VI: Putting it into Practice!

It's not enough to endlessly read, you must put theory to practice. That is how you can improve yourself and the movements you support. Touch grass!

  1. Mao Tse-Tung's On Practice and On Contradiction | Audiobook

Mao wrote simply and directly, targeting peasant soldiers during the Revolutionary War in China. This pair of essays equip the reader with the ability to apply the analytical tools of Dialectical Materialism to their every day practice, and better understand problems.

Congratulations, you completed your introductory reading course!

[–] Noel_Skum 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s incredible - thanks. The idea of the ultimate endgame of capitalistic monopolies looking suspiciously like communism always confused me as it seemed they were just doing the communist legwork before the state intervenes. I’ll probably have a go at section 2, Engels / DiaMat, fairly soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Critically, Revolution is required to achieve Socialism, the Means of Production, once developed, need to be siezed by the Proletariat, and the only way is through struggle. Marx puts it especially well in Manifesto of the Communist Party:

The essential condition for the existence, and for the sway of the bourgeois class, is the formation and augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage-labour. Wage-labour rests exclusively on competition between the labourers. The advance of industry, whose involuntary promoter is the bourgeoisie, replaces the isolation of the labourers, due to competition, by their revolutionary combination, due to association. The development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates products. What the bourgeoisie, therefore, produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable.

I do recommend starting with Politzer, philosophy may seem boring but in AES states they teach Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, because it makes understanding the rest of Marxism far easier. Politzer is clear and extremely easy to understand, and his work is immensely practical, though I won't decry Engels' work on Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, it's in my list for good reason. It's essential.

Let me know if you have any questions!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow. What a resource. Thanks for putting this together in such a sharable format!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Thanks! I take theory seriously, and if you check my history all I have been doing is trying to lead people to Marxism, haha.

I want to point out that I just modified it, adding The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

The federal gov has been nuked, act as if only your state legislature exist, organize unaligned party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

No point in hiding for 4 years, shits not going to be the same when you come out. The only thing we can do is get the fuck out or stay and fight. Shit’s gone get real bad if we all just hide. Pretty much what caused the issue since I feel like we all have been since Covid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Just get on with your life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Don't let the bastards grind you down. Take a beat of you need it. Take it one hour at a time, one day at a time, one week at a time. You can do this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get organized. Nobody ever won their rights by voting, they won by getting together with their neighbors and coworkers and standing up to capital. Unions used to be a major political player in the US, but capital has almost completely destroyed them, with the help of the dems and the repubs. The working class has been hypnotized by trinkets into ceding all political power. We need to claw it back.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Please actually do this. Not on the internet. Join a local activist chapter. Go to the meetings. Use your speaking voice. Contrary to what politicians and corporations tell you, it is possible to organize society in a way that does not result in oligarchy.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)
  1. Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to the Workers to protect themselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.

  2. Read theory. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. It will help contextualize what fascism is, what causes it, and how to stop it. I can offer more advanced reading lists regarding Marxism if you'd like, but this is a good starting point.

  3. Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground.

  4. Be more industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well. Theory guides practice, which sharpens theory to be reapplied to better practice.

  5. Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. The Democrats will not save us, we must do so.

  6. Be persistent. If you feel like a single water driplet against a mountain, think of the Grand Canyon. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I think an underrated piece of theory that the right-wing seems to understand and utilize more than the left is Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord. They seem to be very good at recuperating our theory and twisting it to their own ends, while we on the left struggle to détourne their words and ideas in a way that promotes leftist thought.

I think media theory in general is a big aspect where the left is losing.


EDIT:

Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others.

Also, one of the best ways to survive a fight is to escape it. If getting armed isn't practical, a high-powered flashlight that can temporarily prevent an assailant from seeing you clearly enough to attack and approach is a good move. A group with laser pointers can work, too. Can be quicker and more accurate than pepper spray, but more effective at long range than close.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I very much agree. The key part at this moment in time is to craft an appealing narrative that's at least as palatable as what the right is peddling. What's happening is that people in the mainstream are increasingly becoming disillusioned with the system, and they're starting to become open to new ideas as a result. They're going to start shopping around and settle on a narrative that makes sense to them as an explanation of what's going on and what needs to be done to make their lives better.

The right has been doing a really good job convincing people of their narrative because a lot of it builds on the existing tropes, small government, more personal freedoms, etc.

The really challenging part for the left at this time is to come up with a narrative that's easy to digest, that inspires people, and gives them a long term vision for the future. It has to be a long term vision, something people feel that's worth fighting for, even if there's no quick reward on the table.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (20 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

You just gotta fight back and live your life. Sounds simple, but in my country, we lived through "the perfect dictatorship". We know this shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I think we overrate the ability of the government to change the living conditions in a country. The government is only one factor among others, such as technology, geography, ecnomics, history, climate, and the accumulation of small choices made over decades.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are worse things in our daily lives. Like the giant pothole you hit on the way to the store. Your neighbors dog shitting in your yard. The stack of TPS reports your asshole boss left on your desk. These have a direct negative impact on your life. Regardless of their agenda, politicians will always have less impact on us than our daily does of regular human bullshit.

Pessimistic as that may be, there's an upshot. As many times as that dog shits on your grass, you might watch your favorite baseball team win. Or for every TPS report, you have a real sincere laugh at the water cooler. Think about the scope. Keep it in perspective.

Note: This is meant for the people who leaned hard into the move to Canada meme last time. Obviously, there are people who's lives will be irrevocably be changed. Check your privilege and fight for those who lack it. People of conviction don't hide.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not so much advice as a selfish request: please try to stay with us. I mean that both figuratively (i.e. mentally checking out and becoming hollow) and literally (i.e. existing in this world). It's a selfish request because though I'm not even American, I am one of the countless people who are scared shitless today. I don't know how we will make it through this, but I know I can't do this on my own.

If you're here, scared with me, then I am not alone, and neither are you. It's a bit trite, but it helps me somewhat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a bit trite

I don't believe this is trite at all. This is how we do it. We do it together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

You're right, and thanks for checking me on that. On reflection, I said it was trite because I think I felt uncomfortable with the level of vulnerability I was feeling when writing that comment, so I tacked that onto the end. The vulnerability came from a place of "who am I to give advice when the advice I'm giving myself hardly feels sufficient, because my inner monologue is basically a screaming possum most of the time". Lots of people are feeling similar, which is why I made my original comment in the first place.

I think a lot of us are struggling under the pressure about not knowing how to cope with this dreadful situation, and for me, that meant feeling like I needed to come up with the perfect words that would be useful for everyone who is struggling. It is sufficient for me to go "for me, this is a useful way to think (and other people may do also)". It's silly for me to dismiss myself as trite just because I feel like I am only valid if I have a Solution. As you highlight, this is a collaborative process, so muddling along together is how this goes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What were you doing from early 2017 to early 2021? I suggest you do approximately that, unless you've grown out of things you were doing at the time of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

This is the conclusion I came to and what has kept me positive. Remembering that, while there was a ton of shit happening, I had plenty of happy memories from that time too. I finally made new friends after moving out of my hometown and I'm still friends with them to this day. I remembered all the great moments and memories I made during that time.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Your fear is understandable and valid, this is a dark timeline and a really bad outcome.

But being afraid and panicking cannot possibly help anybody, least of all yourself.

Take a few days if you can to reset mentally as much as possible.

Then, get to work building resistance, it's more critical now than ever. Find a leftist org near you and get involved. DSA, a local anarchist group, a worker co-op that needs volunteers, a democratic socialist org, anything leftist that is doing real work locally.

If you can't donate your time, donate your money. If you can't donate either of those, then help them spread the word on your social media. Post all their links and use your social media to advertise their events and meetups, help make people aware.

On the personal side, protect your health. The conservatives largely want to demolish healthcare, especially for underprivileged folks. Your health is so critical, especially now.

Quit your vices or at least, reduce them:

  • Quit smoking/vaping.
  • Stop drinking, at least heavily if you do.
  • Stop eating junk food/candy.
  • Get in shape, hike, calisthenics, walk, bike, etc.

It will not only help protect you from an administration that wants you to have less coverage if you're sick/injured, it will help your mental health and save you money, sometimes tons of money.

Final advice for money, save it as much as you can. Practice frugality, get together with friends to cook and share meals. Get involved socially with people, learn about your community, build solidarity.

We will get through this, I believe in you, and I believe in the human drive for true freedom, equality, and community. Don't let that flame burn out, we're in this together, and only together can we come out victorious. ✊

[–] sun_is_ra 40 points 2 days ago

Republicans also control senate and might control the house in addition to majority conservative judges in supreme court. I so hope its going to be "just 4 years"

load more comments
view more: next ›