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[–] [email protected] 195 points 2 months ago (28 children)

There is a lot about this that is nuts, but one thing that really jumps out at me.

It seems like Netanyahu is planning an October surprise to shank Harris. And it seems like he is doing it in broad daylight. It certainly seems like a massive offensive strike on Iran one or two weeks before the election is a straightforward way to throw a close election to Trump.

But with this I have to ask: are Biden and Harris assisting with a plan that is clearly intended to cost Harris the election?

I want to say that they surely must've told Israel not to launch anything before election day. But based in their actions so far, it doesn't seem like they're imposing a "no election interference against us personally" requirement as a condition of their assistance.

I guess we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their messaging so far to Israel has been "do whatever the fuck you want, 💰💰"

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"You give me money, I give you weapons of war. You give me money, I ignore the screams of children."

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[the sound of children screaming has been removed]

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (16 children)

I would much rather see a Harris administration handle this than chaos Trump.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (7 children)

This is a weird thing to say, but I actually don't think that there's any indication that Harris or Trump would do anything substantially different with regard to Israel, but the biggest change is that if Trump wins, I suspect that coverage of this will disappear behind all the coverage of his domestic chaos. At least if Harris is president I think there is a chance we see the press maintain a modicrum of interest in covering this.

Either way, words can't describe my anger that Harris appears to be prepared to throw the election over her support for genocide. It is an unreal situation to watch.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Fuckface 45 literally said that Israel should "finish the job":

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240628-trump-let-israel-finish-the-job-in-gaza/

I'm not voting for that Fuckface. Neither should any intelligent person.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Trump would tell Netanyahu to nuke the place and he'd fucking do it. It would be a catastrophe the likes of which we haven't seen since WWII.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The insanity is not that it is Republicans or Democrats

The insane part is that America is just sleep walking straight into a war that will probably escalate into something much bigger and no one wants to do anything about it.

God help us all

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a Democrat.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Oh come on, the header is a clickbait. There is a US military base in Israel already, it's been there for years. The article is about an announcement that they are sending another missile defense battery with personnel alongside

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

There are 100 more US soldiers deployed, aren't there? I'm not a US citizen, but I still wonder why more troops are needed to help Israel in an war of aggression that violates international law.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I feel so bad for the people being deployed and their families. These people are being positioned to be triggers for a war against Iran. They believe it will be easier to manufacture consent for that war if the administration (whichever one we have) can point to dead Americans. Sick shit.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They should point to the Americans killed by Israel

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

They don’t care about kids dying in their own backyards. They definitely don’t give a shit about Americans abroad.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's plenty of dead Americans already on both sides of this conflict. But somehow the brown ones don't get mentioned.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hate how I can't even comfort myself by knowing this idiocy will cost them the election because these fucks are the less horrible option.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, this is coming from the most 'leftist' candidates we are allowed to vote for. Pretty fucked up options we get to choose from. I hate it here.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago (16 children)

US President Joe Biden has said he is "absolutely, positively" urging Israel to stop firing at UN peacekeepers during its conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon, following two incidents in 48 hours. Source

Some hours later: Biden absolutely, positively sends troops to help Israel out. WTF...

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To support UN peacekeepers, right?

... right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

"absolutely, positively"

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Clickbait bullshit. The Department of Defense statement clarifies the US "troops" are just the crew required to operate the air defense battery equipment the US has been supplying to Israel for a while now.

This is not the first time the United States has deployed a THAAD battery to the region. The President directed the military to deploy a THAAD battery to the Middle East last year following the October 7th attacks to defend American troops and interests in the region.

Again, nothing new or different about this. The US is not putting boots on the ground to shoot people up. At least not yet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

No, you're very mistaken. Let me explain.

In the past, the US has stationed supporting troops off of Israel, in battleships far away. It's meant to provide support while keeping things calm.

The reason that putting any soldiers IN Israel is significant is that it means that if Iran tries to kill any Israeli soldiers, they can't do it without risking killing Americans. And if they kill an American, it is understood that we will retaliate and they will be at war with the United States of America.

That's the point of sending 100 troops to offer "tech support". It's to deliberately create conditions that could start a war. If you ask a general, they'll claim that it's just shrewd tactics, because letting Iran know all this means that good judgment will prevent them from attacking Israel. But every war in history is preceded by people making those claims (even when they don't believe them) before going to war.

This is foreplay. This is how you flirt when you're a NatSec pervert thinking of going to war against someone.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine dying not to protect US people or not even their interest.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Biden is really trying to start a whole new war and make the Democrats lose this election.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Honestly, I think Biden supports this unwaveringly because it aligns with US policy to keep the region destabilized.

I mean they helped overthrow the Shah, aided the Taliban in fighting the soviets, invaded Iraq and Kuwait (which led directly to the creation of jihadist state -- ISIS), aided a US-aligned faction in the Syrian civil war, helped put down the 2011 democratic revolutions... there is so much more.

And for what? To keep them from realizing they are all arabs and are sitting on the largest collective reserves of oil in the world...

Evil Empire.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (18 children)

So hold on, no troops in Ukraine, because they're not NATO, but troops in Israel no problem?

Or is it because US is scared shitless of Putin? Or is it because a lot of prople sympathise eith Putin?

Maybe there's no profit in aiding Ukraine?

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[–] brown567 37 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (28 children)

Biden is trying really hard to lose the election for the democrats.

What blackmail does Netanyahu have on the guy? This is such a bad move.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Now why exactly are we doing that?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Oh shit. Either he’s trolling Harris’s campaign or they really are a cult. Very popular decision joe, sure people will forget till november.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

One day closer to World War 3, I guess.

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[–] Grandwolf319 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In an alternative timeline, Biden finally grows a pair, cancels this and other weapon shipments and the election ends with a landslide.

It’s right there Joe, it would be a bigger power move than him stepping down.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

to stop Netanyahu right.... right ??? padme shook face*

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