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Three individuals targeted National Gallery paintings an hour after Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland were jailed for similar attack in 2022

Climate activists have thrown tomato soup over two Sunflowers paintings by Vincent van Gogh, just an hour after two others were jailed for a similar protest action in 2022.

Three supporters of Just Stop Oil walked into the National Gallery in London, where an exhibition of Van Gogh’s collected works is on display, at 2.30pm on Friday afternoon, and threw Heinz soup over Sunflowers 1889 and Sunflowers 1888.

The latter was the same work targeted by Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland in 2022. That pair are now among 25 supporters of Just Stop Oil in jail for climate protests.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

The article doesn't make clear if the painting was damaged this time or not.

I assume not, but that's the very first thing these kind of articles should be stating up front.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I see a lot of confusion and misinformation in the comments about what Just Stop Oils demands are. Their website makes it very plain and you can read through the details yourself. The press has massively misrepresented the groups demands and goals so its best to read it for yourself. https://juststopoil.org/

These are the 3 demands they have.

✅ Demand 1: No New Oil and Gas Licences – WON!

🔥 Demand 2: Just Stop Oil by 2030.

🧡 We need a Fossil Fuel Treaty.

  • Demand 1 they only just won when the UK government changed to Labour who have committed the first item, so all their previous actions were with the goal of not expanding yet further the use of fossil fuels.
  • Demand 2 is to phase the use of fossil fuels out by 2030. The UK has a net zero goal of 2035 so this would bring that goal earlier but many other countries have a 2030 target in the EU.
  • Demand 3 is all about trying to get a world wide treaty signed to stop the use of oil to try and meet the Paris agreement to keep within 1.5C.

There is no immediate demand to stop or anything so extreme, they are largely what the UK has already agreed to do but is failing to achieve.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Cool. But the goals are almost beside the point. This action makes people associate goals that I agree with, with being an asshole.

[–] ryathal 6 points 5 days ago

2030 is insanely fast for no oil, it's also way more aggressive than what the UK is planning. Net 0 emissions is different than no oil. Net 0 emissions means you still use a bunch of oil but claim planting a bunch of trees or an algae farm cancels it out. Net 0 emissions doesn't mean stop using oil based products like plastic either. No oil is totally a different demand.

Also UK doesn't plan on net 0 emissions until 2050, 2035 is just massive reduction in transportation emissions.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 6 days ago (15 children)

While I think this was a stupid way to go about risking jail time for a noble cause, I would like to remind everybody here of what everybody in the 60s thought about MLK and his peaceful protests:

There never has nor will there ever be such a thing as "the right way to protest." The right way to protest means out of sight where it can be conveniently ignored.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Interesting that you think this is stupid, yet you acknowledge that protests are inherently uncomfortable.

People are talking about Just Stop Oil every time they pull one of these stunts. Sounds like they're accomplishing their goals will bells on.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 6 days ago (49 children)

So if throwing paint at a entierly replaceable cover for a dusty old painting is too far gone to be acceptable, what action can we take to stop oil production? Like. It needs to stop. To continue producing fossil fuels is a death cult. It needs to stop, like, a decade ago. I ask genuinely, how is this too far, and what is an acceptable response to an existential threat?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 days ago (86 children)

So if throwing paint at a entierly replaceable cover for a dusty old painting is too far gone to be acceptable, what action can we take to stop oil production?

God, I wish someone could actually trace the train of events that would lead to reduced oil production from this other than some bizarre notion that throwing soup at a priceless artifact of human heritage will Energize The Masses(tm) or suddenly convince people who think climate change is a hoax or overblown that it's actually a serious problem.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

It's weird that there are people in this thread that think defacing the protective barrier of a painting is too far, but advocating for harming or killing oil industry executives is not because the painting didn't do anything to cause our climate emergency. By that argument, defacing a building with grafitti can't work, blocking traffic would put more pollution in the air, blowing up a pipeline would kill innocent people and animals.

Nothing is good enough for them except the status quo. They'd rather a museum burned down in a riot than plexiglass get covered in soup because riots are okay (but once that happens, the pearls will be clutched again.)

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Just Stop Oil activists throw soup at ~~Van Gogh’s Sunflowers~~ plastic sheet after fellow protesters jailed

I dunno why these newspapers constantly print these phony headlines... Oh wait. It's the clickbait and propaganda obviously.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

This is so poorly motivated it makes me wonder if it were in fact staged by the fossil fuel industry to make climate activists look bad.

[–] Voroxpete 54 points 6 days ago (5 children)
  1. It was covered by glass, unclutch your fucking pearls already.

  2. Van Gogh is my favorite painter, and I would still rather have a habitable planet for future generations than have Sunflowers. If you're more mad about this than you are about what big oil and gas companies are doing, sit down and have a good hard think about where your priorities are. I do not give a shit if you "agree with their message but not their tactics" or if you "think it makes the cause look bad" or whatever other bullshit you want to spew to cover your ass right now. Ultimately, if this caused you to feel a greater sense of righteous anger than the wholesale destruction of our environment for profit does, you are part of the problem. I'd rather side with the people who are trying to make a difference, even if I don't like how they do it, than side with the people plundering our world for personal gain.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (13 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 days ago (23 children)

To everyone in this thread who has nothing but insults for these activists, what are you doing against climate breakdown? Besides sitting on your couch, insulting people who are actually trying to make a difference, facing jail time?

You are the kind of people who would've called the Suffragettes names and said they're hurting the cause, as well.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I bet fossil fuel companies love this

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (4 children)

These pro-acrylic protests are getting out of hand!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Hot take: I swear a lot of these kinds of "protests" are funded by the oil companies themsleves to make climate activists look like crazy crackpots easy for the media and average Joe to dismiss. Like with the Stonehenge paint bullshit. Really?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I agree. I think these people are serving as "useful idiots". They don't know they're being manipulated by oil interests. Ther think they are fighting the good fight. They are undoubtedly benefiting those they claim to be against.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

Good for them.

They’re getting media attention for their message. That isn’t easy to do.

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