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Three individuals targeted National Gallery paintings an hour after Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland were jailed for similar attack in 2022

Climate activists have thrown tomato soup over two Sunflowers paintings by Vincent van Gogh, just an hour after two others were jailed for a similar protest action in 2022.

Three supporters of Just Stop Oil walked into the National Gallery in London, where an exhibition of Van Gogh’s collected works is on display, at 2.30pm on Friday afternoon, and threw Heinz soup over Sunflowers 1889 and Sunflowers 1888.

The latter was the same work targeted by Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland in 2022. That pair are now among 25 supporters of Just Stop Oil in jail for climate protests.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Imagine if these activists spent more time going after companies benefiting from fossil fuel production rather than throwing soup in museums...

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 days ago (38 children)

They've done that too, and have encountered media blackouts.

As nice as it would be if they could simply fix the climate problem with the disruption a handful of protests cause, they can't, and need to draw public attention to the problem.

These demonstrations open up the conversation in threads like this - you agree there's a problem, you agree these protests don't fix the problem, so let's talk about what will.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I feel like we’re kind of entering an era where direct action and ecology-motivated terrorism are going to start becoming a thing. And I’m honestly not sure that would be a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Peaceful protests have not worked, disruptive protests have been widely villified and the protestors jailed for very long sentences. If you are facing 2-3 years for holding up a banner or throwing some paint seems like criminal damage of a fossil fuel facility isn't likely to net more years. As many have said in the past governments ignore peaceful protests at their peril, because once its clear that doesn't work they become not peaceful.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If everything is illegal, nothing is illegal.

If you’re gonna get thrown in jail if you’re caught regardless, why not go for broke?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

To fight another day. If every passionate soul bound themselves to another rather then fizzling out or going up flames then we could become many.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Then we wouldn’t be talking about stopping oil production right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

We’re not talking about stopping oil production. We’re talking about these nutcases. And when we do get back to the important topic, now it’s harder to get support, harder to stay on topic, environmental concerns are more likely to be dismissed with jokes about throwing soup

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right? Go throw soup at Darren Woods or one of the oil execs, not at a painting

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Remember when famous assholes used to get pies in the face? What happened to that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tHGmSh7f-0

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I remember when people would throw animal blood on rich fucks going to gala events who were wearing fur.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right? I admit I don't have the bravery it takes to do stuff like that, but it seems like neither does anyone else anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So... that's straight up assaut. There's a good reason why they changed tactics, and it's mostly because throwing soup at a Plexiglas barrier is 100x less destructive to property than covering valuable furs with blood.

I find it absolutely mind-boggling that you all are acknowledging that protests that make people uncomfortable are what works, then coming to the conclusion "but not like this, you can't protest like this, that's ridiculous!"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then they would be in cages already.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Imagine if all the people I disagree with did the thing I wanted...

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