4chan was hating on Reddit before it was cool
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It's already dead. r/wholesomememes decided to allow only original content (no bots or reposts), and, after two days the only post was one begging human users to post anything original.
There are no users left. It's bots all the way through, like maggots in a rotting corpse.
holy fuck, i didnt know it was quite that bad
17m members and only 2 posts in the last 24 hours as of right now lol
Except... it looks like people did start posting. So the users were crowded out by bots before and they're posting now. That just shows that Reddit isn't dead, but it does have too many bots.
I mean, I'm sure many people here wish there was more non-bot content. It's annoying to see something on Reddit and come back here and see the same thing.
updoots encourages circlejerk
I mean, making a post about hating on Reddit, on Lemmy, is pretty circlejerky too at this point.
true.
anyway, fuck spez.
I mean, making a post about hating on Reddit, on Lemmy, is pretty circlejerky too at this point.
There's a key difference, at least when it comes to hating Reddit.
Most [all?] users here have actual, informed reasons to hate Reddit, from past experiences with the site. They aren't simply joining some bandwagon due to social expectations to bend to the crowd.
Why is lemmy obsessed with talking about its ex
Goes to Google and types in a search
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Reddit
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Reddit
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Forum post that links back to Reddit
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YouTube that's just a bunch of screenshots of Reddit over an automated voice
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Reddit again
Why won't my ex leave me the fuck alone?
She did me dirty bro she deserves it
That's just the way it is.
When Reddit was new, it mentioned Digg a lot.
When Digg was new, it mentioned /. a lot.
When /. was new (yes, I was there, too), it mentioned Usenet a lot.
At some points in time, the likes of The WELL, the Facepunch forums and Metafilter got their own mentions, prompting me to check them out.
I'd argue discord is even worse.
Id say discord is a good place for already enstablished friend groups to hang out
It's an excellent chat program (except it's pretty buggy on mobile). But it doesn't function well as a forum replacement. The lack of discoverability is a big problem.
So many on Reddit bitch and moan about reddit. Just delete your account and use alternatives if you hate it so much.
I was one of those. Before Lemmy, nothing was truly an alternative for Reddit. There were alternative Twitter-like sites up the ass and Facebook; but nothing similar to Reddit's layout/presentation.
Thats... why I'm here.
It dies every time someone stops using it.
The bots will continue to churn like npcs in an abandoned mmo.
Whenever I stumble on reddit I make sure to post disinformation or some kind of dumb shit to throw a wrench into the LLM training data they sell to google.
"ruins the Internet"? This coming from 4chan? That's rich
4chan, in part, ruined real life. So much of the initial meme buzz around Trump came directly from 4chan - god emperor, etc. /b/ and /pol/ had large coordinated campaigns to boost Trump for lulz and to fuck with people. These made the news occasionally and were sometimes quite wide-reaching. Edit: not to forget Qanon, pizzagate, etc.
Additionally, 4chan is responsible for a massive swathe of meme culture more broadly. Most people don't dredge its depths or even know "the hacker named 4chan" exists, but it has been a massively influential force.
4chan doesn't nearly have the kind of traffic to ever have ruined the internet.
Forgot
- APIcalypse
- sold user content to AI
- let's only Google index.
• A website built by unpaid users and mods that Reddit wants to profit off of.
Nobody likes reddit. Nobody. Everyone is just stuck with it and spez's dumbass moneygrubbing bullshit.
They will also just casually full bore ban you because you were mass reported.
That's what someone I talked to theorized happened to me.
I was banned for posting "I think my right to punch Nazis should be protected by law".
Not kill, murder, maim, I didn't even name any groups where there was a lick of grey area, Nazis, the one group that since WWII, everyone has agreed are alright as a universal bad guy.
I had a 10+ year old account with like 1.5m karma get full stop banned for reasons behind my comprehension. I wasn't doing any overt racism, misogyny, violent rabble rousing... Nothingworse than vehemently disagreeing with somebody and calling them an idiot or a clown.
I only suspect I triggered a nerve which got me mass reported to an extent that I got caught in the dragnet. Being disagreeable was a ban worthy offensive maybe??
Overly sensitive fuckwits with brittle feelings. I am the same ol' dumbass I always was but the culture shifted towards "business casual" away from being more like "diet 4chan"
I had an account of similar magnitude banned. Why? Because on January 6th, on the very day, I wondered aloud why there weren't soldiers repelling the crowd of insurrectionists trying to overthrow our democracy with machine gun fire. I'm sorry, but if a crowd of thousands of people shows up with the intent of hanging the vice president and overthrowing the government? Well, you made your choice if you're in that group. The correct response to a group like that is to first give them plenty of warning. But if they persist, use whatever force is necessary to repel them.
Other things I've been banned for:
- Telling an overt bigot posting in an LGBT sub to go kindly "go die in a fire."
- Suggesting, before the ruling, that if SCOTUS ruled that the president was completely above the law that he should simply drone strike Supreme Court justices to produce a majority on the court that would repeal his new powers.
- Evading bogus bans.
At this point I've got a lifetime ban from there. And you know what? I'm fine with it. The policies on reddit remind me of the blind "zero tolerance" policies that have screwed over so many in American high schools. When I was in high school years ago, the standard was "zero tolerance" for violence of any kind. If a bully attacked a victim, they would both get in trouble. Being the victim was no defense. It was zero tolerance, zero thought. And that is the standard that is now used on reddit. They'll still allow racist dogwhistles and entire subreddits run by hate groups, but as long as you don't cross a handful of explicit lines, you're fine. You can openly celebrate the deaths of tens of thousands of people in Gaza, but tell one bigot to go die in a fire, and suddenly you're banned.
I've made an active effort to bookmark any active forums I come across. Even Lemmy doesn't quite fill the niche that actual forums provide, though it is still useful.
Restricting search results to reddit is still a nice way to filter out corporate junk and just get honest end user opinion on things. As much as I hate the management of the platform now, you have to remember that Reddit didn't always used to be shit. Aaron Swartz was a co-founder.
Aaron Swartz was a co-founder.
Swartz has been six feet under for longer than some Lemmyites have been alive.
It is rapidly becoming an unviable way to find info these days. I have to specifically ignore anything from the past couple years.
I miss the IMDB discussions under each film..
Was great to finish a film and have a question or and ideas and be able to talk about it.
bans controversial subreddits
They are ruining valuable conversation by banning GasTheKikes and Jailbait. My free speech!!! /s
I use it less and less. I only really visit two sub reddit, and one of them has been really declining as it has grown.
"Ruins the internet"
I happen to remember the forum culture of the mid-late 2000s. It wasn't that great.