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Headline slightly sensationalised compared to article content. But he did say he’d go to Venezuela if he loses.

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Alternative headline "Donald trump lies again"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if we're lucky a bunch of his stupid base will emigrate there early thinking they'll be able to setup for him.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Jim Jones 2.0?

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The mob speak is insane, but in reality, would this be grounds to revoke any bail/bonds he's currently on?

[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 months ago (5 children)

When you're rich, they let you do it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

"Oh don't worry, he's just on vacation and/or has business there, he'll come back (after he sold other hidden US top secret information)"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

They give you your ex best friend’s plane to ride away in

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Venezuela is an odd choice, considering most of his kind have historically fled to Argentina.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago

He... probably doesn't know the difference at this point...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, Milei is the same kind of crazy he is, wheras he's been shitting on Maduro and Vz forever.

[–] SreudianFlip 10 points 2 months ago

You're right, and he probably thought he was saying Argentina.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In 2022, it was reported that Vladimir Putin and his top leadership were developing a backup plan to flee to Venezuela if Russia were defeated in Ukraine.

Like a dog. Right to his masters lap, I see.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't disagree with the analogy, but Trump compares people negatively to dogs so often (and famously hates dogs) that I'm not a big fan of it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Plus, we don't deserve dogs. They love unconditionally and are extremely loyal if treated right.

I'd say, "Like pond scum. He is going right to the lowest and grossest point of a lake."

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Very smart to say this publicly just a couple months before sentencing for 34 felony convictions.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

5 weeks until sentencing. In theory

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Openly staying that he is going to flee the country... With ongoing court cases. Time to revoke that passport

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"No, no, Agent! I am Donald...o Trump...ski. Famous Russian real estate guy and international lover of beautiful ladies. You don't need my passport because all your friends know me. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF DONALD TRUMP I'M THE PRESIDENT!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not trump, that sentence was too coherent

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I know, but I can't downshift hard enough to get into that headspace. I tried.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (10 children)

But he did say he’d go to Venezuela if he loses.

He did not.

As I explained earlier today, he was commenting about crime decreasing around the world and, if Kamala were elected, it would be safer to meet the person he was speaking with in Venezuela than in the United States.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Evil commie Venezuela (as Republicans keep painting it)? Is that really the angle he's going for?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It was in the midst of claiming Venezuela dumped all of its criminals in the US. In Trump’s view Venezuela is safer than the US since America let all the Venezuelan criminals in through that open border.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but imagine if it were the 60s and that claim was being made about the USSR, that it's safer than the US because all the criminals were sent to America, so he's going to go to the USSR if he loses.

The Republicans are still stuck in "we hate commies" mode. So this is a very weird thing for Trump to say.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Venezuela is an ally of Russia.

Venezuela is an authoritarian state (for the moment).

Venezuela is thus perfect for Trump.

It all makes more sense when you realize these people don't know what 'communism' or 'socialism' are. It's just an alternative word for 'bad' to them. I once heard a Republican blame companies raising gas prices at the pump on 'socialism'.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Venezuela? that's an odd choice. He's distracting us from his Russian emigration plans

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wouldn't that be a violation of his release following being convicted of 34 felonies?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Sounds like he’s a flight risk.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

"The United States isn't sending their best. They're sending rapists, they're criminals..."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Show us you mean it by fleeing there now. Then stay there to really get the message across.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know he intended this as hyperbole but I 100% would not be surprised if the reason this popped into his head is because he's been making arrangements for exactly this.

If I were him I wouldn't want to hang around in the US after a loss in November. It's all or bust.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’ll have some trouble if he actually tries. Secret service detail for former presidents and all.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

I'm sure they'd LOVE to have him after all the things he's said about their country

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

He said that about Biden winning. He is lying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Yet another campaign promise he will likely break.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Member when he said if he lost to Biden we would never hear from him again? I ‘member

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

No, but see, he didn't lose the election was stolen from him. Totally different /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Flight risk

[–] thearch 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why wait? Trump could leave the United States right now and we'd all be better off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Could he though? Isn't he on bail?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Well if that's not a reason to vote for Kamala, I don't know what is.

Since he's a big fibber, maybe she could make it an election promise to enforce it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Can we get that in writing?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As a former President, can he?

I'm not American, but my assumption was that the President's role was one for life, in that he will always have a presidential security detail with him, and while he can travel abroad it's probably only to countries with good diplomatic ties with the US.

A former President moving outside of a friendly jurisdiction could be a huge security issue that he couldn't just wave away.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Trump said they will start a revolution if they lose and now they say they will leave the country if they lose?

They want other people to get them in power while they just wait in another country?

[–] iAmTheTot 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I hate Trump, but this framing is disingenuous. In the context of what he was saying, he was trying to make "a point" about South American countries sending criminals to the USA. He was claiming that if he doesn't win the election, it would be safer to have their next conversation in Venezuela because there would be no crime there as they'd have sent all criminals to USA.

So, you know, just more of his really stupid bullshit, but he wasn't really saying he would flee to Venezuela. For one, that would require him to believe he had done something wrong or to admit some kind of defeat, two things that I firmly believe he is incapable of doing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I'm sure Maduro will welcome him with open arms.

This is slightly at odds with many Republican legislators because many people fleeing Venezuela are firmly on the right. When DeSantis did his whole transporting Texas asylum seekers, one of the main issues was that money for that was not to be used for people fleeing Venezuela.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Imagine if the Project 2025 plans to question the results and bring it to the corrupt supreme court all failed because Trump impulsively fled? Would be hilarious

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Trump should fear failing Putin more than anything the USA would do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

In the context of what he was talking about, it seemed like that was his weird way of trying to make Venezuela sound like a better place than what America would be under Kamala Harris. Best thing you can do really is just completely ignore this guy because he thrives on attention, negative or positive.

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