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Yea. I'm not from the US (so an outsider's and probably naive perspective) ...
but the whole Biden thing seems off. Trump is a known quantity. The point of his running, at a basic level and besides vengeance, is to try the MAGA thing again without COVID "interfering". Also, if you think back to the 2020 Dem primaries, where no one was really happy with any candidate and many were asking of the Dems "is that the best you've got" ... a Trump sequel is kinda republicans forcing that question again.
As for all of the attention ... well there's a lot on the line here: Trump's a known quantity ... so, Dems, how you going to defeat him this time? Because ... if you lose to Trump, twice, both times by standing by a party elder ... that's maybe "shame on you". Moreover, we all knew Biden was old. A single term was sorta, kinda part of the deal because of that (remember, he wasn't doing well in the primaries, he never has really). So, has a bargain been broken here? A gamble lost? A mistake, perhaps all the way back in 2020 but certainly behind the decision to run again, come to fruition?
Beyond all of that ... I thought excessive media attention on Trump and the free publicity he gets was a bad thing (he's probably jealous about Biden's media attention lol)?
I agree, and all this happened when Epstein files were unsealed. Why there's no talk about that?
I think Biden promising to increase taxes for the rich doesn't bode well with the rich, because Biden might actually do it.
Ding ding ding! Biden is a threat to the wealthy so the smear campaign is rich capitalists trying to replace Biden with someone they like more, or get tRump back in so they can get tax breaks. They care not for the dangers of fascism cause they'll still make profit, but with fewer regulations and faster.
Also, probably many of those implicated in the Epstein files are extremely wealthy and don't want that info taking center stage at anytime. The wealthy like to see those bank account zeroes increase! Soon as you threaten that, they try to jail, replace, or "remove" them using their near infinite means. The same ones named in those files likely also own local news groups and can influence local and/or regional news.
It actually did. It wasn't just lies, but he is also losing plot about what he is talking about.
But yeah, I guess that's not much difference in the greater scheme of things.
[Donald Trump] May Not Be Good for America, but [He's] Damn Good for CBS”
-CBS CEO Les Moonves, 2/29/16
And nothing has changed since.
Vote for the administration, not the man.
This is not that difficult. Both of these geezers have been president before. We know what teams they put together, what their agendas are, and the consequences of their administration.
There is only one big fucking faux pas on the Biden administration, and that is their continuing support for Israel's genocidal campaign in Gaza. That is no good, but what is Trump's stance on Gaza? His administration wants to accelerate and intensify support of the genocide.
Both candidates suck as individuals, but only one of the administrations has been competent and generally good for all citizens.
Trump's administration is asking why Israel isn't using nukes
You know, in case anyone had any doubts at all
Because literally nobody is suprised by trump as this point. We all know what he is at this point. Biden popped the fascade that has been carefully crafted to keep us all thinking he was doing alright despite being old as fuck.
100%. People want to act like it was a "bad debate performance" but it was absolutely eye opening to the american people. Its not about who won or lost a debate.
And it's not like it's the first of those incidents. He fell off his bike, tripped getting on air force one, had a bunch of press conferences where he did the trailing off in the middle of his answer thing, etc.
And this isn't the only person democrats did this with either. They enabled Dianne Feinstein to run for reelection despite her being at deaths door, there's the RBG debacle, etc.
Democrats need to get better at refreshing the old guard. The only one that did it kind of right is Nancy Pelosi: groom a successor and step aside when the time is right.
Because Trump performed exactly how he has in every previous debate, I'm not saying it was good but it was the same shit level of performance that I expected.
Biden performed horrendously compared to expectations, that's why he gets the focus. Trump lying his ass off just isn't news anymore, I'm not justifying it but it would have been stranger if he hadn't.
I know Trump shouldn't get a pass but the reason Biden is getting so much focus and Trump isn't is pretty obvious. Trump did as Trump does and Biden had a horrible performance.
John Stuart said it best - Trump meet everyone's expectations of him. His followers are either deranged or are just exploiting his madness. Biden was the one with something to prove and he ducking blew it.
The people voting Trump like that about him. Stop pretending like they're after the same voters, they're not.
This article is about media reaction, not social media users.
Shockingly, you'll find the medias audience is made up of those same people that those two candidates are campaigning to. I also don't know where you see me talking about social media?
Nobody expected anything else of Trump. Him lying is no longer news. It's just how it is.
Democrats tell us democracy is on the line and many people including myself believe it, but then they push a weak candidate likely to lose merely because his team has lined their pockets with corporate donations and pledged allegiance to Israel. Democrats need to decide if democracy is on the line, or if they lie to their voters and don't care if Trump wins.
Because in a televised debate, people only see performance. It's not like anyone fact-checked Trump, either. Biden tried and failed to meaningfully rebut him, and the moderators didn't even try.
*edit because we're incredibly tense, not loose
Because Biden was the 'electability' candidate, and he's looking pretty fucking un-electable.
The argument against swapping out candidates with 4 months to go is ostensibly because it's not enough time to campaign, but that's the reason Biden needs to be tapped out. Whoever is running needs to be able to clearly prosecute the case against Trump, but Biden can't even deliver a coherent sentence. Even when he's reading off prompter he's flubbing words, missing cues, and can barely remember who's still alive and who's already dead. We can't just hope people will read between the broken sentences; Biden needs to be able to campaign for himself. Turnout will be so fucking low if he doesn't do his fucking job, and that will be nobody's fault but his and the DNC's if they don't fucking do something now.
Quit complaining about how the press is reporting on his flubs; they're not inventing that problem whole-cloth, Biden is clearly not doing well. People should be irate that the white house and the DNC have been ignoring this issue that's been growing steadily for the last 3 and a half years.
We *lose if we do nothing about this. Fullstop.
“The World”?
I think you mean the press, and that press focus is the problem.
Somebody should plot a chart of media company revenues vs. political candidates and compare it with the stories they run.
I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect there may be some cross-correlation.
Because everyone knows that Trump is garbage and republicans are complicit. We're hoping Democrats will challenge Biden
Because the right doesn't care that trump lied, and the left does care that Biden can't speak.
And the right wing media wants to do is suppress the left wing voters, and the left wing media knows that people are exhausted after 8 years talking about Trump lying so the Biden thing is better for viewership
Because Trump did nothing unexpected for him - if anything he was more restrained than usual - but Biden is showing greater signs of senility. News reports things that are new, more at 11.
The media is only focused on one.
Because everyone expects trump to lie.
Continually, repeatedly and with wild abandon. People noticed Biden's stumble BECAUSE it was out of the norm
With trump it was the same old shit he always says
Biden didn't get tongue tied. He couldn't form complete sentences and kept losing his train of thought. Look at his videos from 2019. He was talking just fine, but still was a gaff machine.
And Biden didn't even have the awareness to push back on the lies! He fucking argued with him over fucking Golf!
The billionaire owners of the media have a vested interest in Trump’s agenda.
Biden administration tax policy proposals have the billionaires pissed off.
Because the people surrounding Biden are good at their jobs. Each has a weakness: Trump is a liar and Biden is old and forgetful. Trump's people made no effort to hide Trump's weakness, but Biden's people did a good job of hiding it up to the debate. That people are surprised is a good sign that Biden surrounded himself with competent people - but also this is what debates are suppose to do, reveal the true candidates to the nation.
Because one was par for the course while the other was very unexpected.
Person 1 who missed the debate: How'd the debate go?
Person 2 who watched it: Well Trump lied thru his teeth for every answer.
Person 1 sarcastically: Wow what a shocker 🙄 and how did Biden do?
Person 2: Well he answered the question about abortion by ranting about an immigrant woman dying at the border.
Well he answered the question about abortion by ranting about an immigrant woman dying at the border.
No no. Far worse.
How an immigrant murdered this woman who was pregnant. And that there's lots of it. Maybe? And then rambling about women being raped all the time by their family.
But at least that was before they both started arguing just fine about golf handicaps.
Trump lying is no news. He performed as everyone expected.
Because undecided fucktards are all that matter. And they’ll be swayed by trump’s bullshitting.
MAGA will vote for Trump no matter what. Democrats would rather vote for a corpse than vote for Trump. Which means we don't need Biden to save democracy: anyone will do.
Because when the nation's facing its greatest threat since at least the Civil War, your chosen defender should be a beacon of hope, not a quivering old man.
I love Joe Biden. He's done great things for this country, and his administration has been excellent overall, despite being very bad at communicating it's successes. But it's time for him to rest on his laurels.
Senility is coming fast, and the Republicans are absolutely murdering him on this point. It's by far the strongest play they have, and by choosing a different candidate that's not in their 9th decade of life we can gut that argument.
RBG refused to retire and as a consequence we have the worst Court in the history of the country. Biden is refusing to retire, and as a consequence we're likely to lose our Democracy entirely in 5 months.
It's not too late to change candidates. It's only in the last few decades that the candidate was known ahead of the convention. We can and should pick someone younger that can turn the narrative of "crazy old man" around on the also-ancient Donald Trump.
Everyone I talk to laments about how terrible both candidates are. How about we swap Joe out for someone who is at least mediocre?
Trump getting no pushback for lying for 1 hour and not actually any questions is a real issue. Trying to say Biden was tongue-tied is way too generous. His mind was spinning up like old 90 computer hardrives. It took awhile for him to reply to anything. If this debate was taken seriously, Trump wouldn't have gotten to sit up there and do that for all that time.
We already know trump sucks. He shouldn't be running for pres, he should probably be in prison. We're focusing on biden because he's also unfit, and we're afraid he can't beat trump. This isn't rocket surgery.
Because this election isn't going to be decided by hard core Democrats and only one person on that stage looked mentally incompetent. And I understand he's not, but man is that going to be a helluva thing to prove to people who don't watch politics. People who tuned into the debate because they were undecided.
Question I've been asking since the debate.
I'm Canadian, and Trump and his Project 2025 scares the ever loving crap out of me.
Why doesn't it scare you guys?
It does, that's why we want a stronger candidate than Biden. Everyone already knows where Trump stands on things and has for years at this point so shining a light on it does not help. It shouldn't even be close and yet it is because the Dems keep trying to jam candidates no one likes down our throats.