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[-] [email protected] 139 points 1 week ago

"No way to prevent this," says only nation where this regularly happens.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

Only Onion headline I can quote off the top of my head. Never gets old (unfortunately).

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[-] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago

"BuT gUns doNt kilL PeoPle, PeoPle kilL PeoPle"

Then regulate fucking people's access to guns! It's not that hard.

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

Fund mental health institutions and make it easier to involuntarily commit people before they buy weapons and go on rampages?

Case after case, you see more red flags than a May Day Parade, but none of it legally actionable or reportable on a background check.

Examples:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvalde_school_shooting

"Ramos' social media acquaintances said he openly abused and killed animals such as cats and would livestream the abuse on Yubo.[132] Other social media acquaintances said that he would also livestream himself on Yubo threatening to kidnap and rape girls who used the app, as well as threatening to commit a school shooting.[131] Ramos' account was reported to Yubo, but no action was taken.[131][133]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkland_high_school_shooting

"The Florida Department of Children and Families investigated him in September 2016 for Snapchat posts in which he cut both his arms and said he planned to buy a gun. At this time, a school resource officer suggested[92] he undergo an involuntary psychiatric examination under the provisions of the Baker Act. Two guidance counselors agreed, but a mental institution did not.[93] State investigators reported he had depression, autism, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). However, psychologist Frederick M. Kravitz later testified that Cruz was never diagnosed with autism.[94] In their assessment, they concluded he was "at low risk of harming himself or others".[95] He had previously received mental health treatment, but had not received treatment in the year leading up to the shooting.[96]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

"In a 2013 interview, Peter Lanza (Adam's father) said he suspected his son might have also had undiagnosed schizophrenia in addition to his other conditions. Lanza said that family members might have missed signs of the onset of schizophrenia and psychotic behavior during his son's adolescence because they mistakenly attributed his odd behavior and increasing isolation to Asperger syndrome.[155][162][169][170][171] Because of concerns that published accounts of Lanza's autism could result in a backlash against others with the condition, autism advocates campaigned to clarify that autism is a brain-related developmental disorder rather than a mental illness.[172] The violence Lanza demonstrated in the shooting is generally not seen in the autistic population[173] and none of the psychiatrists he saw detected troubling signs of violence in his disposition.[155]

Lanza appears to have had no contact with mental health providers after 2006. The report from the Office of the Child Advocate stated: "In the course of Lanza's entire life, minimal mental health evaluation and treatment (in relation to his apparent need) was obtained. Of the couple of providers that saw him, only one—the Yale Child Study Center—seemed to appreciate the gravity of (his) presentation, his need for extensive mental health and special education supports, and the critical need for medication to ease his obsessive-compulsive symptoms."[165]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting

"In June 2021, Gendron had been investigated for threatening other students at his high school by the police in Broome County.[20][60][66] A teacher had asked him about his plans after the school year, to which Gendron responded, "I want to murder and commit suicide."[67] He was referred to a hospital for mental health evaluation and counseling but was released after being held for a day and a half.[20][66][68]

Gendron told police that he was merely joking; however, Gendron later wrote online that this was actually a well-executed bluff.[65][69] He was not charged in connection with the incident since, according to investigators, he had not made a specific enough threat to warrant further action.[66][69] The New York State Police did not seek an order from a state court to remove guns from Gendron's possession.[69][70] The mental health evaluation was not an involuntary commitment, which would have prohibited him from buying guns under federal law.[69]"

[-] themoonisacheese 35 points 1 week ago

Sure; maybe it's also a mental health problem, but it's definitely 100% a gun problem.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Then I ask this: School shootings simply never happened when I was a kid in the 70's and 80's. We had far less regulation*. Any asshole could buy a gun, get it delivered to their doorstep, and they were cheap. Yes, even AR-15s.

This shit all started with Columbine. Want to suicide and go out the most horrific way possible? Shoot up a school!

So no, it's not the guns. Nothing has really changed on that front. So what happened?

* One exception: Conceal carry laws were nothing like today, far more restrictive. I'm leaving that out because criminals and mass murderers hardly give a shit about carrying illegally. Would that stop you if you were intent on murder? Also, at the same time, the laws around transporting guns generally became more restrictive.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

I feel 9/11 and faux news had something to do with fetishizing guns. Fear mongering kills.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, it's a social problem. Recognize that mass shooters are almost exclusively white males. The book Angry White Men by Michael Kimmel does a great job of profiling the person who does this sort of thing and why. There's a lot that goes into it. Economics, masculinity, school culture, etc.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Weren't the 70s and 80s the peak of violent crime in the US? Including armed violent crime?

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of Americans do actually support some gun control measures. A lot of Americans also don't actually know how insanely hard and effectively the NRA has organized and opposed any remotely reasonable gun control measure. They basically ensure that any hearing on the subject is flooded by their members to oppose it. They just go and many sane Americans don't.

I'm not American, but I actually support sane firearm ownership. I look at the lunacy over there and I am almost shocked. I really do think, from hearing about this as much as I do, that many Americans support sane measures. But the NRA is a huge problem. It prevents people from even being educated on this issue.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

If gunning down little kids with lunchboxes isn’t enough to make you dial the guns town a notch, then nothing will.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Sandy Hook survivors are in high school now and some are getting into activism.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

Columbine happened when I was a kid and nothing of any substance has been done since.

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[-] Mouselemming 26 points 1 week ago

Yes, it's horrible the gun situation in the US.

But knowing how to stop someone bleeding to death can be useful in other dystopian situations as well. Like industrial accidents from bad management and OSHA/child-labor violations. Or non-gun injuries from abusive adults.

Or just stupid stuff that kids and/or adults do to maim themselves, like avocado knife injuries.

Don't knock the first aid training.

Do go after the guns.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Pakistan did this thing where they banned rifles (and basically anything not a handgun) without extensive permits for all new gun sales. Then they offered to buy all the guns, which a ton of people traded in for some cash, which greatly reduced the amount of firearms owned by the public.

It would work great here except there's a 0% chance the government would want to use money to solve a problem.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Hey, that's not true. If the problem is that billionaires' bank accounts aren't full enough, the government will absolutely run truckloads of freshly-minted bills as fast as they can.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

I honestly can't believe they haven't tried to give shooting courses to kindergartners.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

The only way to stop a bad kindergartner with a gun, is with a good kindergartner with a gun.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Now in fun colours!

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Republicans, universal gun care and state mandated child control, but only after you've suffered 9 months against your will to bring them into this world if you even survive the experience.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

America loves their school shootings. If they didn't, they would've done something about it by now.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Second Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Pro-2A, for all who want to bear arms:

Rock, Flag, and Eagle!:

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

"Australia Had a Mass-Shooting Problem. Here’s How it Stopped" by Wendover Productions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aGGOK4kAM

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It's not Americans; the overwhelming majority of all citizens of all political affiliations want gun control. Like 80 to 90%. The politicians who are in the pocket of the gun lobby are the reason. They absolutely refuse to get anything fucking done and we hate it.

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