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[-] [email protected] 114 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ever seen that episode of The Office where Jim gradually fills Dwight's phone handle with nickels, and then removes them all? Then Dwight hits himself in the face when he picks up the phone?

These people would be shooting over the top of anyone's heads. They're not hitting anything.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago

And how good is your marksmanship with the weights in the way,?

Don't these guns kick up anyway? Wouldn't you need to hold them down?

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

Well that's kinda my point. Even before you fire, if you weight the barrel like that then when you take it off you will naturally want to aim higher than necessary. By the time you add recoil, you aren't even close anymore.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One would assume this is just temporary resistance training so they can build muscles to keep the rifle in position, not marksmanship practice.

Right? Right??!?!

Or a joke photo being taken seriously.

But that would never happen to NCD.

[-] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago

The whole point of NCD is to take every post seriously. Its funnier that way.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Wait, this isn't a community of genuine defense experts?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Yes, yes it is. The best of the best of the best, sir!

[-] Socsa 9 points 1 month ago

With honors!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Something funny slick?

This guy, has no idea why he's here "the best of the best of the best!", "sir!"

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Captain America over here

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As long as this is treated as physical training and not actual marksman training I can see this being very useful. I remember going to the arcade once with those laser guns you hold up, all you can play for however many bucks, fuck my arms were sore.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I mean, just fill two buckets with water and stand holding them with your arms straight out if you want the same training results.

I used to really like the Silent Hill Arcade shooter. It was a fun themed spinoff. That and Time Crisis 3.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why have them carry a gun or ruck at all, just have them hit the gym. It's not the same. Train like you fight (and a little bit more).

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

gymnastics – inverted iron cross

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I remember going to the arcade once with those laser guns you hold up, all you can play for however many bucks, fuck my arms were sore.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007641151?pid=889663

The Pole Cat Tall Bipod shooting system is a great shooting platform for kneeling or standing situations.

I imagine that arms getting tired might be part of the cost computation for all-you-can-shoot deals, though, so I dunno how well people tromping in the door with those would go over with arcade management.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In this case the payment system stopped working and things were free. They eventually caught on. Their solution for the last hour and half was kick everyone out and you could come back in, all you could play, for whatever dollars.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hah! Fair enough.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

While the weights here are impractical, wouldn't a weighted barrel work really well? If you're forced to engage your muscles against the weight of the barrel you'll most likely be extremely stable.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Heavy guns in general recoil less just due to the mass of the weapon.

There’s a pretty big downside though, in that you are now carrying a much heavier weapon with you at all times.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Maybe, but not weights like these ones. It would probably make recoil more controllable at the cost of making aiming much more difficult. Usually you want to have lightweight parts to make aiming easier, and using your muscles and body to absorb and counteract the recoil.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

at the cost of making aiming much more difficult.

I don't see how this would make aiming more difficult, besides the weights blocking front sight

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

making barrel heavier puts center of mass of gun forward

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You missed the joke but that's okay. Try aiming without sights

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

This is stormtrooper level training

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Sort of, I'm thinking this is extreme dry fire training to "untrain" the natural reaction to push down on the weapon to counteract recoil.

A common way of doing this with automatic pistols is to place a coin on the end of the slide close to the front sight. With the pistol unloaded, squeeze the trigger till click without dropping the coin.

What it looks like they're doing here would be more punishing than dropping a coin when they instinctively push down.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

i would bet that the weighted guns don’t fire

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

I'm sure the barrels love this.

[-] nuke 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Weight training make barrel strong 💪

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, this will come out shitty in text, but I like to think they'd use rubber ducks for shit like this.

[-] Tar_alcaran 24 points 1 month ago

Ah, these must be those famous chinese guns where the recoil pushes the barrel downwards!

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

There's actually a muzzle brake that users report is so effective that it does push the muzzle down. (More likely is that it's so neutral in terms of muzzle climb that users are pushing the gun down unintentionally.)

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Aah yes, the proper amount of training. Looking down the sights at a solid mass of metal.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

One question. What for?

[-] SomeAmateur 5 points 1 month ago

US special forces have front heavy guns with thicker barrels, lights, lasers, quad rails etc.

And look at how well they do, the weight must be the secret!

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