FPS without a mouse? VATS is doing some heavy lifting there
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It's a single player Action RPG, not an FPS. The best way to play it is with a controller. On a PC and with tons of mods, of course.
you shoot mainly in first person, it is a first person shooter "FPS". A game doesn't need to be exclusively an FPS to be an FPS
First person shooter is a genre, not the mere presence of first person shooting. First person shooters like for example Call of Duty have some RPG aspects, but they're not RPGs either.
At most, I'll agree with "RPG with FPS elements", though even THAT is a bit misleading since the combat system doesn't function in ways very similar to that of an FPS once you scratch the surface.
so you're gatekeeping the descriptive "genre" of First Person Shooter, and in whatever definition you have you exclude all the games that don't mainly focus on first person shooting, despite the fact that first person shooting is one of the most common ways to progress in the game?
That's just silly
also 
, since the definitions of what fits or doesn't fit a certain genre depends entirely on the audience's opinion - go ahead disagree with the leading opinion
so you're gatekeeping the descriptive "genre" of First Person Shooter
Other way around: I'm not letting you smear my beloved RPG by incorrectly labeling it an FPS lol
and in whatever definition you have you exclude all the games that don't mainly focus on first person shooting,
You know what a genre is, right? Would you call the Horizon and Assassins Creed games platformers? They involve platforms, after all 🙄
despite the fact that first person shooting is one of the most common ways to progress in the game?
It isn't, though. One of the things that makes it a better game (in my subjective opinion) than for example the Diablo games is that there's tons of other ways to progress than just shooting everything.
the definitions of what fits or doesn't fit a certain genre depends entirely on the audience's opinion
Nope. People are often objectively wrong about things.
go ahead disagree with the leading opinion
Thanks for the permission to keep not having my opinions determined by the frequently ignorant masses, I guess. Am I also allowed to keep refraining from saying "literally" when what I actually mean is "figuratively"?
"most common way" man, did you even read the words I wrote?
and ah yes "objectively wrong" about video game genres, suuuuure
anyway, this conversation has been incredibly stupid, and your oddly strong opinion about what is and isn't an FPS is not even based on any facts. Fallout:NV does indeed allow you to shoot at things from the first person perspective, and however small part of the game it might be for you, the fact you can do that, does make it, in part, a first person shooter - whether you like it or not. And if somebody doesn't like first person shooters, there's a high likelihood they won't enjoy modern Fallout games either. this said I'm out, I've got better things to do than arguing about "objectivity" in definitions of video game genres lmao
I like how you only got one downvote
I mean, it's an FPS as well as an RPG. Unless you're going for a melee build, a Mouse is still going to be more comfortable for Guns or Energy Weapons builds.
Wrong on both counts.
...how? It's a game, that you play, with a first person perspective, and shoot guns. Unless you only use VATS, a mouse is going to be more comfortable for most people, myself definitely included.
I don't use V.A.T.S. at all; never have. Getting a decent gun early game and going for headshots has served me well.
Same, I like to ignore VATS. Gunplay is much nicer with kNVSE and other fun mods anyways.
Not everyone considers "sitting upright or hunched over at a desk as if working" the most comfortable position to game in and it's not like you need the extra precision of the mouse to enjoy a story-driven RPG like you do when playing a competitive FPS that's only about precision and reaction time.
Not everyone considers controllers to be more comfortable for shooters than Mouse and Keyboard. New Vegas is a fantastic RPG, but the combat is that of an FPS. Maybe if I was doing a bunch of non-combat quests I would agree, but as someone who has played thousands of hours both ways, I prefer mouse and keyboard pretty greatly.
You can have your own preference, I think it's a bit strange to call mine "wrong."
They probably play XCOM with a controller too.
been there
Ok, but why are they in the sewers of FO4 and not in an abandoned casino or something?
Yea he should be in the middle of the desert. Also that burger looks too fresh and clean
I bet it's hardly irradiated at all! 😤
Aww yea! I never played that one and the show has inspired me to get back into the universe, so I picked up FNV ultimate.
It was a bit dated at first, so I researched modding and got those graphics in a much better place, along with a ton of bug fixes.
Now to try my hand at Caravan...
You absolutely made the right call. Fallout is apparently at its best when Bethesda isn't fully calling the shots. Apart from the original isometric games, that's (in my opinion) the gem of the series.
Nobody hates Fallout more than Fallout fans, haha.
The biggest thing for me is that New Vegas is both a rushed mess and the highest peak the series had reached, meaning a better Fallout game is both possible and yet will probably never happen.
Here's to hoping Fallout: London is good!
Unfortunately fallout London is dead in the water with the updates today
Should just be temporary, not a huge deal hopefully. It's so close to being here that I am fine waiting that bit longer.
As much as I adore and have endlessly played FNV, I never got the hang of Caravan.
All you need to do is get 2 of the 3 piles to be a higher number than the other guy's and you win. It's actually not that fun once you actually know the rules and it becomes brain-dead easy against the NPCs. Gwent is a little better. But Tetra Master is the GOAT.
It's basically blackjack, but 21-26, and must be higher than your opponent's "caravan." Kings double values, jacks remove cards, and queens and jokers are less relevant.
Plus, you have to only increase or decrease unless special conditions are met, like having the same suit or a queen.
It's actually really easy to get the hang of and make a ton of caps before you hit New Vegas, even without a Luck build.
it clicked pretty quickly when i finally went and looked it up online, and played a bit with a standalone browser version i found. the in game explanation just isn't very good.
I love fallout but it's a Bethesda game so make sure to use this. You just can't play Bethesda games without at least bugfixes.
I appreciate it man. Yes, I followed a video that primarily patched for capacity and bug fixes. It took a good couple hours of work just for that (Vortex is badass by the way). That was the foundation that would allow for the huge amount of graphics upgrades. I've played a good dozen hours now without a single crash/bug.
I’ve played a good dozen hours now without a single crash/bug
This is more satisfying than winning any boss battles in game. Well worth the effort though, have a good one.
Tale of Two Wastelands gang rise up
Yooooooooo where so u live? That cellar? Looks awesome
it's a typical cellar in a Polish apartment block
This also what most cellars look like in Europe if your building hasn't been constructed in the last 70 years.
Yup, they all look the same. All commie blocks in the country were mass produced in the same exact way.
Also - Oranżada Helena gives it away
Yeah looks like most shared basements in my city. Every apartment has a private lock up like you can see on the right hand side in the image with the number 6 on it.
lmao, I wish I lived there. Just a fine picture I found from someone else online.
Haha, i thought it was Poland until I noticed Oranżada 😂
Wait is it not?
Holy shit... An old Medion laptop in the wild! I got one of those at Aldi in the UK about... I dunno, 20 years ago? A long time ago. 4 years in, the cooler packed in and it started overheating. They RMA'd it and fitted a whole new cooler and motherboard.
The shape looks the same to me, too... Nice little laptop.
My one regret is getting stuck in one of those DLC sidequests. Ugh. I really just need the easy levels.
But why is that laptop from 2001
Currently playing through the new california mod for the first time (since the fallout london release has been pushed)