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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] [email protected] 181 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

What's hilarious to me is a large part of the value of Twitter was the actual brand name "Twitter" and "tweets". Those terms are recognized around the world and pronounced more or less the same globally. That is something no other social media platform has ever been able to reproduce. It's always "posts", "likes", "messages", and "comments."

This is a literal destruction of value for absolutely no reason other than the fact that one guy think it sounds cool.

Throw this onto the pile of "Elon clearly doesn't know what the fuck he's doing"

Anyone who can't see that this is a bad idea is being willfully ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You make a really good point. The whole concept of a short form text was branded, like Kleenex instead of tissues. I guess Elon thinks that the user base is the most important thing and it doesn’t matter what it’s called?

In any event, “X” is sophomoric. It’s a silly rebranding that doesn’t make sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

like Kleenex instead of tissues

No, this is like amazingly, monumentally more stupid. Pre-Elon (prelon?) twitter was getting free advertising on virtually every news cast and commercial in the US. I'm going to guess this varies worldwide, but twitter is for sure a brand that had probably about as much global reach as Apple, McDonald's, etc.

There is virtually no stupider brand change/rename that I can possibly imagine. I thought Max dropping "HBO" might have been one of the dumbest of all time, but this is a whole other level. And I didn't even get to talking about the new brand, which is also possibly one of the dumbest of all time. This post is merely talking about how incredibly dumb it is to drop a globally recognized brand, not even getting to the fact that the brand he chose is dumb for a thousand reasons.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Upvote solely for the portmanteau, stayed for the rest of your comment!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It only makes sense when you you look at it from his perspective of making an everything app. "X" or "X corp" sounds and looks very cyperpunkish and it's been his fantasy since at least 10 years.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine if Google, whose search engine has even a verb - googling - associated with its usage, suddenly decided to rename its wholle search brand to something bland like "A" (so, not even something quirky and distinct that could easilly be turn into a verb like, say, "Pock", but just the one letter)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess we have to get used to people referring to "tooting" on Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like Mastodon and all, but I'm never going to call a Mastodon post a "toot." It's a terrible name for a post.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I think of the word 'toot,' the first thing that comes to mind is farting. Maybe that's just me though?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Not just you, everyone has the same thought.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In germany its called a "Tröt" like the sound an elephant makes. It's super fun to say. Try it! Tröt, tröt

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that makes me feel like it's not a serious platform. I can't imagine convincing any friend to use it by saying "toots".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vine had vines which was kind of unique. Didn't have quite the reach of twitter though and died by twitter's hand.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vine would have been a better TikTok. At the very least, it wasn't Chinese-owned.

It never made sense to me why they shut it down because it got so popular so fast.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I refuse to believe that he's this shit at business.

Like this has to be a money grab somehow. He just can't be this fucking stupid. Can he?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I think he's this narcissistic and impulsive but he's always had some sort of buffer between his worst impulses and reality.

He was a VC bro that was able to sell a few unicorn ideas to employees and investors (which is no small feat). His investors at his other companies were able to help build competent teams around him and prevent him from pinballing between bad ideas and keep him relatively focused on their investment and ideas that would work.

As Musk's weath grew, so did his power. His need for investors (and the need to listen to them) diminished. Also weath and power attract an entourage who are willing to do/say anything to stay on Elon's good side.

Elon only only purchased Twitter because he was compulsively tweeting.

He signed a no due diligence contact because no one around him was there to say "that's a really fucking stupid idea, there's no rush to buy Twitter, take all the time you need." But he signed a terms sheet that no homeowner should sign before purchasing a much less a multi-billion dollar acquisition. For reference, an acquisition of a small company with an annual revenue of less than $1M annually takes 3-6 months to go through due diligence, multi-billion dollar acquisitions can take years. That's a seriously compulsive decision.

If he sold his stake after saying he was going to buy them, Twitter was going to sue his ass off for doing a pump and dump and intentionally destroying stock value. That would also open an SEC investigation. Both of those would show the public how fucking stupid Elon is in a court of law. That's simply not okay for a narcissist. They must feed their ego.

Now at Twitter, he doesn't have a large backing of investors that he has to listen to like in a normal VC situation, AND he thinks he's actually smarter than everyone around him and we can see the emperor has no clothes.

After being a lucky VC that got forced out of his initial investments right before the DotCom bubble burst Elon's main value was as a marketer.

At Tesla he was able to sell investors and employees a vision of a gas-free future. At SpaceX he sold his vision of exploring the stars.

Who is clamouring for the next great social media platform?

Who's asking for the next 'everything' app?

Who's asking a private company to be more involved in their day to day lives?

Users certainly aren't.

Tl;Dr: Elon was a lucky VC, who's main value was as a marketer and not as an ops/engineering specialist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

He can and antics like this show he was born from money and a silver spoon in his ass. He is stupid and talentless and uses his money to try to prove otherwise, but since Trump he went mask off and no one can pretend a single word form his mouth is intelligent anymore.

Lucky fucking bastard, i hope his luck runs out but he's too rich to become destitute.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This isn't entirely accurate.

X.com was the name of the online banking company that Elon Musk, Harris Fricker, Christopher Payne, and Ed Ho, cofounded in 1999.

They merged with competitor Confinity Inc, which was cofounded by Ken Howery, Max Levchin, Peter Theil, Yu Pan, and Luke Nosek.

What's accurate however, is that they did pull a board meeting while Musk was in Hawaii, to kick him out and rebrand from X.com to PayPal

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Every time I see it written down my brain just

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musk wasn't kicked out over the name though, well not just the name.

The board removed him as CEO because Thiel literally quit the company. Since Musk demanded he rewrite Confinity from unix to windows(since the x.com backend and it's stupid e-mail based banking was made for windows and Musk doesn't understand unix/linux...(that's why he doesn't know about x.org for instance.)).

Confinitys better method and code-base was basically what Musk bought when they "merged" the companies. And everyone else on the board knew that PayPal wouldn't get anywhere if they did what Musk said. So they had "secret" board meeting and replaced Musk with Thiel, and the rest of PayPal is history.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

IMO I kinda like Twitter... Uhh, X blue? When you see the checkmark next to someones name you know that you're about to see the absolute dumbest take that could ever possibly exist... or it's an account that was "gifted" a checkmark to muddy the waters.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it ironic to anyone else that most of the musk spam in my feed comes from this community dedicated to stopping musk spam?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

No, because it makes absolutely zero sense for the existence of a community to be the reason for less spam.

Instead they should rename the community to obsessedwithmusk247.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm just gonna pretend they're sacrificing themselves to contain the musk spam in this one place, where we can easily block it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They have a point. We ARE going to see what they could have become.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Wrong. We're going to see what they could have because

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Did you see that tweet?" fine

"I tweeted that" okay

"I'm going to go through all my old X's" wut?

"I'm going to X it" huh?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

"I'm going through all my old X'cretions"

"I'm going to X'crete it"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

”Did you see my latest x?”

”One of my x’s went trending”

”There’s weird guys commenting on my x”

All this sounds so ambiguous. Sounds more like an old relationship getting weird.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yes, a random idiot knows more about branding that the professionals who do this for a living. What could've been.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is that a real comment that someone wrote

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a joke, right? That's how I took it. I actually thought it was pretty clever. Now I'm confused and unsure of myself.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That face when you shit so hard it comes out in the shape of an X

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I truly do want to see what PayPal could have because.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You forgot the obligatory 420 & 69 😅

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Musk was never part of PayPal, no matter how much his bots try to shill that idea. Company that invented PayPal merged with company Musk was part of, company he was booted out from before the merger. He never had anything to do with PayPal. They later made PayPal and sold it to eBay and Musk has stocks, that's it. They succeeded in spite of him. Just like he lies about founding Tesla, he did the same thing with PayPal and Neuralink, etc. That's what Musk and muskrats do, gaslight.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can't imagine the life of someone who was a fan before and remains a fan today. What would such a person do through day? How would they eat?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (20 children)

From what I’ve experienced through other people is that their obsession with musk has nothing to do with logic, reasoning, or because they value musk as a person. It comes purely from a place of toxicity. It’s like the “own the libs” mentality. It’s not about being better then the next guy it’s about tearing down their belief system and making it worse for the other side.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"He hated the people I hate" has become the main attraction point of conservatism these days

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

He looks fucking mad in that pic. Wildeyes.

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