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Former Indiana governor and candidate for Republican nomination tells Fox News decision ‘should come as no surprise’

Mike Pence will not endorse for president Donald Trump, the man he served as vice-president for four years but whose supporters chanted for Pence to be hanged as they attacked Congress on January 6.

“It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year,” the former Indiana governor and former candidate for the Republican presidential nomination told Fox News on Friday.

Asked why, given that he previously promised to endorse the eventual nominee, Pence mentioned 6 January 2021, the day a mob attacked Congress and Trump was reported to have told aides Pence “deserved” to be hanged for refusing to block certification of Joe Biden’s 2020 election win.

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[-] [email protected] 223 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is like when eary life evolved a soft-tissue that resembled a spine. It wasn’t a spine, but it resembled one.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago

Never thought I'd think of a "notochord" in reference to politics, but here we are.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

As an aside, I love how 'notochord' sounds when it is pronounced. It has a good flow.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Just a big, thick, flaccid, spine-like structure?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's not real unless it happens to them.

[-] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago

"Will you endorse the man who tried to send an angry mob to hang you in order to stop the peaceful transition of power in the United States?"

"Probably not."

It's crazy that people are acting like this is some brave stance on pence's part. Jesus, Republicans get to enjoy such a low bar for being praised.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yes very true, but how often does it happen where a former American vp does not endorse their presidential counterpart's future bids for president?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

According to my calculations, it happens roughly as often as a serving American VP is sent a big unruly mob riled up on the idea of VP-killing by their current American president.

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago

I would hope not after the Trump mob tried to hang Pence. What even is this timeline.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

not only that, but ask yourself why it was important that he "know" (and trust) the driver of his escape car?

he was afraid trump would disappear him.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I'm usually on board with you, but I think "disappear" is a bit too far at that stage. More likely it was "sheltered in a secure location" or "sequestered at Andrews AFB," but either way not to return to Chambers so Grassley could take over and throw the certification to a House vote.

At that stage they'd need the legitimacy of Pence being alive and safe, but unable to perform duties due to the unrest. Hammer and anvil.

Dispose of him later when things are done & dusted with the new regime installed.

Um... Just speculating.

What??

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Either way, getting in that truck meant getting dead.

He already refused to play ball. They weren’t going to let him off again.

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[-] Assman 75 points 4 months ago

Endorse Biden you coward. His opponent's supporters wanted to hang you.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

If he did I think he would get legit death threats, there would be a nonzero chance that his constituents would lynch him.

[-] Assman 40 points 4 months ago

They already tried to lynch him

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Ah yes, but what about second lynching?

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[-] [email protected] 64 points 4 months ago

Oh look who found their clip-on balls today

[-] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Mother gave him the keys to his ball cage

[-] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

So glad he finally grew a spine. There’s hope for paralyzed people everywhere.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To hell with that.

It's only growing a spine if it risks costing you power, pence has none and is losing none. Glad he came out against the fascist, but all that might indicate is some small, at least partial return to and recognition of the rational world. He's patting himself on the back about how virtuous this may make him seem in history, nothing more.

A sitting Republican Congressperson or party official with no intention of retiring would be demonstrating bravery coming out against the fascist.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

All true. He probably feels smug about keeping his mouth shut for this long.

I hope history remembers him for continuing to orate with a fly crawling around on his face :-)

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fyi, I didn't mean to diminish your joke, I just had a pedant moment, apologies.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Credit due for Pence consulting Dan Quayle and getting sane advice. I'm no fan, but I'll give him that much.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's insane how low the bar is for Republicans to be given credit. Doing his job as VP and certifying a lawful election shouldn't earn him any praise. Not endorsing the man who sent an angry mob to stop him from doing his job shouldn't earn him any praise.

This is not a man who "grew a spine," it's a pile of wet napkins that got slightly more dry.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

He should have used the 25th amendment on Trump on January 6th. His cabinet was fleeing like rats shortly afterwards, so he probably could have gotten a majority of them to sign on.

It would have saved his legacy and his party. He could have done so much good, but he chose not to.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

Say what you will, but at the end of Trump's presidency Pence grew a spine and told him to fuck off.

Trump was hanging onto the idea that Pence would magically solve his problem by denying the certification. Of course, Trump's cult went to the capitol to try and hang him. I hope he endorses the other candidates, or Biden when it comes to it. It'd be a massive middle finger to the entire cult.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh please, that man still has the spine of a jellyfish.

Even after Trump tried to have him executed he was still on the air defending this trash person and his racist trash party.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

This is the correct perspective. Mike Pence is a weird and cowardly shithead who decided to get off the crazy train at that stop. There were hundreds of previous stops that would have been appropriate exits. HIV enthusiast making sure people in Indiana get infected. Looks and personally of a Q-Tip.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Just imagine, as we look at all of Trump's unresolved court cases, that Pence not endorsing him may still end up being the full extent of Trump's consequences for attempting to overthrow the US government.

We are riding this timeline like a motorcycle at full throttle on the edge of the Grand Canyon.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Grand Canyon

Implying that there's only one side to fall off of? Nah man this timeline is literally Rainbow Road 250cc mirrored online. There's no way to win cause the cheaters control the win ratio.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Or the fly.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Doesn’t mean he won’t vote for him.

[-] DudeImMacGyver 11 points 4 months ago

Said the guy they wanted to hang

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure if this is for Donald Trump or Mike Pence, but either way...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I guess that probably doesn't come up that much, so I dunno if there's much historical data on Presidents who run against their Vice Presidents, but I'm not sure that it's surprising.

In the US voting system, Presidents and Vice Presidents tend not to be that similar. You tend to choose a running mate to fill in gaps in your own appeal. Pence appeals to social conservatives, which is a weak point for Trump; Trump is gonna appeal to nativists and protectionists.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I give it a month, two max, before his spine fails him and he endorses Trump. We've seen it happen many times before.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

i really respect that!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Lmao. This pathetic weasel couldn’t stand for anything good, but I guess at least he saved some small piece of dignity by not kissing the ring of a fascist despot after he wanted to have him hanged by a mob of gravy seal Nazis.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't say that.

I mean it doesn't mean a lot.

Though it may just be the first stitch popping, with more to come.

It is noteworthy that rarely is there ever public dissent at that level of republicunt power.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

That's true! I really meant this means nothing to his fan base. I hope it leads to more people doing the same.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

His brother did...

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