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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Shooting at a fighter aircraft while in a parachute seems like a very bad idea to me, you're in trouble if the pilot shoots back.

[–] Nommer 75 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Odds are if a fighter is close enough for a pistol then the fighters were committing war crimes by shooting parachuting aviators. The Japanese were known for shooting down parachutes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't a war crime back then, of course.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (5 children)

What I've learned about "war crimes" is that it doesn't matter what you do as long as you don't lose. And if you win you get to punish the loser for their war crimes and pretend like you didn't commit any.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"History get written by the victors"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

A statement routinely banned in serious historical communities because of the mountains of evidence against it

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

It was the guy in the parachute who was shooting back. The Japanese were known for shooting down ejected pilots.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Iirc he shot at the Japanese pilot because he was shooting pilots who had already bailed which is an unwritten rule of fighter combat.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They're moving pretty quickly relative to you. By the time they realize you've shot at them, they'll be hundreds of meters away. If they then decide to turn around (since they have to be facing you to shoot you) and come for another run at you...honestly they were probably going to do it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How did they confirm this? (I don’t doubt it but still)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Supposedly, the plane was later found after crashing, the pilot with a bullet wound in his head

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/the-japanese-fighter-plane-shot.html

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Ah, plausible explanation for a crashed pilot that needs to be dead, I see.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

During WW2, the Japanese were shooting airmen who have ejected. This was a MAJOR no no in wartime. So the only reason a Japanese plane would have been in striking distance from an ejected airman, would be because the Japanese airman was trying to kill him.

Another fun fact. During war, snipers don't ever shoot a person who is taking a shit.

[–] Corkyskog 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am going to need a source for your fun fact. That sounds like shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here is the source for the parachutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_parachutists

For the pooping in thing, after doing a bunch of research, the "rule" was mostly memoirs and interviews about what the West did. This could be an attempt to rewrite history to make the West look better. But here are a couple of sources I found.

During the civil war: https://dailycaller.com/2017/01/10/civil-war-rule-of-engagement-protected-urinating-with-pants-down-dont-shoot-principle/

Short video about it: https://youtube.com/shorts/PhWraPN46jc?si=OYHA-bM0OE27Zr_f

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"ON CRIP, ON GOD, HE DID THAT SHIT"