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[–] [email protected] 157 points 8 months ago

The part of the speech that was removed:

“History isn’t history anymore. Truth is not truth. Even facts are being replaced by alternative facts and driven by conspiracy theories and ugliness. In Florida, young students are taught that slaves developed skills which can be applied for their personal benefit.

The entertainment industry isn’t immune to this festering disease. The Duke, John Wayne, famously said of Native Americans, ‘I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.’

Lying has become just another tool in the charlatan’s arsenal. The former president lied to us more than 30,000 times during his four years in office, and he’s keeping up the pace in his current campaign of retribution. But with all his lies, he can’t hide his soul. He attacks the weak, destroys the gifts of nature, and shows disrespect, for example, by using ‘Pocahontas’ as a slur.”

Meanwhile:

The actor appeared onstage at the ceremony on Monday night for the presentation of the Gotham Historical Icon and Creator Tribute to Martin Scorsese’s Killers Of The Flower Moon, a film distributed by Apple that focuses on a series of murders targeting the Osage people in Oklahoma during the 1920s after oil was discovered on tribal land.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Clipping a way Jon Stewart and now editing speeches. WTF is going on.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Apple is about making money. If honesty and integrity do not increase profits, they will be discarded.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Which is unbearable because Apple loves to pretend they care about issues

[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They all do until it affects profits.

Corporations are legal people but they are all literal psychopaths. They will do or say anything to keep the profits rolling and the real humans mean nothing to them.

We are nothing but a means to an end and that end is profits.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

We created runaway AI decades ago. No computers needed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Crucial addition, there's no level of profit or savings (accumulated profit) that's enough. If margins or units can be increased, they will be increased, yielding higher profit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Yep. He references issues both in the past and present that tie directly into this film they're promoting, yet they censored all this out while pretending like they give a shit about these causes because they put it into a for-profit movie they created.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Looking like they care about "privacy" and "issues" is purely accidental.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (6 children)

It's Apple, did anyone expect integrity?

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 8 months ago (5 children)

How do execs not understand the Streisand Effect yet? If DeNiro had just made the speech and criticized Trump and the industry, I never would have read past the headline. Good for him for speaking out, but I'm good and over "celebrity bashes Trump" stories. Ah but Apple censors Trump criticism, well now you've got my click and my eyeballs. So dumb. Also evil. But mostly just dumb.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

I work in a corporate. It is impressive how often people forget about the Streisand effect.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What worse is, I was thinking of watching the movie, but knowing it's Apple, and knowing all the control they try to push on the content, then maybe is not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yo ho ho ho, come sail the high seas, friend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I been there since 2010 but lately getting into cinematography so I was interested in cinematic experience.

[–] atzanteol 15 points 8 months ago

Yeah, "famous actor insults Trump" is such a "dog bites man" story I never would have even registered it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I've never even heard of this award show. There probably wouldn't even have been an article about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yes, but now they have plausible deniability. They only care that they're not taking the blame for it, not that it's being said. "We tried to stop it, don't blame us".

[–] [email protected] 93 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Tim Apple has to stay on Trump's good side so he doesn't get thrown into the concentration camp with the rest of the gays when Trump gets into office.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He and Peter Thiel will just move to another country in their private jets, nbd.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What drives me bonkers about all this is that Peter Thiel, a prominent right-wing figure, was doing exactly what all those QAnon nutjobs were accusing people like Clinton of doing, yet they never acknowledge this and instead focus on stupid shit like a pizza parlor with a nonexistent basement.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Every accusation is a projection.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

... in response to “feedback from the filmmaking team that wanted the actor’s remarks to be centered on the movie.”

Fuck that. You had de Niro submit a speech because you want to broadcast his words. You tried to make him a puppet and have your words in his voice.

The only thing actions like this cause is that it makes people wonder how many times smaller voices simply just went with the puppet speech.

I can't believe they asked someone of talent to write a speech and think he'd just roll along with major changes in the voice.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I can't believe they asked someone of talent to write a speech and think he'd just roll along with major changes in the voice.

Me either. Absolute fucking Muppetry.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

Fuck all that noise, I am going to take De Niro at his word on this. They probably knew he wouldn't approve the edits and tried to force it on him. How disrespectful.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Definitely read the article for context. It does not reflect well on Apple at all. I know that’s probably unsurprising and not even close to the worst thing we have read about them, but it’s just another disappointing example. What an awful lack of options we consumers have in trying to choose products and services from ethical sources. Also, excellent speech by De Niro.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 19 points 8 months ago

It's almost like there's really no ethical consumption under this particular system

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Well, the first trillion dollar-valued company superpower whom outclasses the rest in terms of capital gains several times over probably isn't the best place to start looking.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

Only money plz no expression.

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