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[–] [email protected] 170 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Every time a swear word is censored on the internet, a cat video gets a million views, or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (6 children)

We've gone all the way around so now censoring a swear makes people more upset than actually saying it and I really don't understand why.

Year 2000

Say 'fuck'

People get irrationally mad

Year 2024

Say 'fxck'

People get irrationally mad

What happened?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The younger generations decided that being offended by swear words is fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And those motherfuckers are right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm an older generation and (generally) refrain from swearing myself, but seeing censored posts on Lemmy drives me fucking insane. This isn't a preschool nor is it an advertiser-friendly place. We should keep it that way.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In fact, we should actively try to make it hostile to advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck your goods I wipe my ass with your services.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That should do it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're unaliving censorship, or however younger generations say it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lmao, the term unaliving is censorship. Tiktok won't let you say "kill".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That was their point lawl

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But. Isn't it gen Z and older A's censoring shit?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't censor because they're offended by the words. They censor so platforms like tiktok don't delete their posts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

In my mind this makes it even worse

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In adult-facing parts of the internet, including here, swears are typically used for an extra bit of "oomph" to spice up a sentence or make a point clear. (I know that there's an actual word for this but I can't think of it currently.) It's generally considered neutering that spice if you censor it; case in point is this meme. It just tends to look childish or dumb, especially if the word is just vaguely censored like this meme here again. At least Grawlixes ("$#@&!") have some mystery as to the word being said.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Intensifiers, goddammit!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

I don't remember people being offended by the word fuck in 2000. Sure on TV it could be considered dicey but on the internet it was pretty fair game

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

If you want to make a post without swear words, just do it. Using a swear word and then censoring it completely defeats the purpose

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your comment implicates you are in favour of censoring swear words. Coukd uou enlighten us as to why?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I just feel like people can choose for themselves. As another commenter said it takes a lot of the 'oomph' out of the swear which I believe does have a time and place. But many people seem to be over the top ofended if you choose to do so.

I'm certainly not suggesting that 'everyone needs to censor their swears, think of the women and children!' But lemmy seems to get more angry than I would consider reasonable if someone does censor themselves.

Best anti-censor swears argument I keep seeing is that people are doing it to be more advertiser friendly which is making the internet worse overall, and I whole heartedly agree with that, but sometimes with no other motive than I would prefer it, I like to say fxck instead of fuck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you want to swear then swear. If you don't want to for whatever reason, then use creativity to get your frustration, need of emphasis, or other emotion through. Choosing to censor yourself is just weak.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like your comment and I want to posit this.

If you want to swear then swear. Cool, I agree with this as it's following a simple 'Do what you want' kinda thing.

If you don't want to swear, don't swear. Again sweet, do what you want.

But what if I want to swear, but I want to censor the swear word, even superficially (replace a vowel with something else, leaving the swear entirely readable where everyone can easily tell what swear is being used)? This is where I'm seeing a ton of people suddenly not as okay with people doing what they want, and that's what I was trying to get at with this comment chain. Why are people so upset at people censoring themselves in this way?

And I'm not even suggesting that I do this all the time, just in some cases where I specifically want to swear, but softer. Like when I'm trying to make it abundantly clear that I'm not swearing at someone, I'm just swearing in general.

I really hope this doesn't come across as confrontational and I appreciate that you took the time to reply. This just really feels like something that harms no one but for some reason makes a lot of people mad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But what if I want to swear, but I want to censor the swear word, even superficially (replace a vowel with something else, leaving the swear entirely readable where everyone can easily tell what swear is being used)? This is where I’m seeing a ton of people suddenly not as okay with people doing what they want, and that’s what I was trying to get at with this comment chain. Why are people so upset at people censoring themselves in this way?

Someone else already has pointed it out under this post, but no matter, it bears repeating. The initial need to use these censored forms of swear words rises from corporate censorship, all kinds of web services have been auto moderated to remove a preset list of words, and replacing a single character might get around such a simple limitation. This is understandable, and a good way to stick it to the corporations worried about spoiling their image. (Filter lists like this are also a copout when it comes to bigotry, corporations can cheap out on moderation and pretend no one is calling anyone nasty names when those words are not allowed.)

People tend to assimilate behavior they see every day, though, so a good chunk of the population has begun to see this kind of censorship dodging as some sort of modest or proper behavior. It never was about not offending our peers, though, so this change in internet etiquette is more succumbing to corporate brainwashing than being considerate. I'm sure there are people who do get upset from seeing crass language, but a human will have no trouble being equally offended about someone saying "F*ck cops!" rather than "Fuck cops!". A stupid censorship filter might still be fooled, though. Using the self censored forms where there are no such filters feels like bowing to our overlords a bit too much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Personally, I like feck a bit more. It ain't the spelling, it's the intent and context.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

tbf the cats deserve it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I didn't censor it so I'm not to blame

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, I wasn't blaming you one bit. I was just pointing out how odd it is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It really is odd. What's even the point? Is it some kind of "saying it without saying it" thing? It's still explicitly saying it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Certain platforms will negatively impact an account based off content they find inappropriate.

I don't know which, because I don't use any of those fuckin platforms.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Ok you didn't censor it. But did you consider uncensoring it?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty certain it's done just to get comments like yours, the same as deliberately misspelling and rage bait. Everything for more comments, clicks, interaction etc.