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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The lowest thermal throttling temp you can set on a 14900K is 62C, so you will have to settle for that.

AMD allows you to set the boost temperature target to 60C if I remember correctly, and since the V/F curve is a lot flatter on AMD CPUs in general, the performance deficit from doing so is significantly smaller

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The W-34 series of Xeon have a ton of PCIe lanes and memory channels. That's what you're paying for

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That's a lot of money for a heavily downclocked RX 7600, an SSD slot, and a power supply

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing about codec support is that you essentially have to add specific circuits that are used purely for decoding and encoding video using that specific codec. Each addition takes up transistors and increases the complexity of the chip.

XMX cores are mostly used for XeSS and other AI inferencing tasks as far as I understand. While it could be feasible to create an AI model that encodes video to very small file sizes, it would likely consume a lot of power in the process. For video encoding with relatively high bitrates it's more likely an ASIC would consume a lot less power.

XeSS is already a worthy competitor/answer to DLSS (in contrast to AMD's FSR2), so adding XMX cores to accelerate XeSS alone can be worth it. I also suspect Intel GPUs use the XMX cores for raytracing denoising.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There are already encoders and decoders for x.264/265/VP9/AV1 on Intel GPUs, these are codec-specific. The article of this post points to Intel increasing the capabilities of the GPU, which is usually accompanied by an increase in encoding/decoding performance and efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Does anyone really buy a 13700k and then game on it's iGPU?

The 13700K has a considerably smaller GPU than a 1360P actually, so no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Let's assume you get a 14900K then, overclock it to 6 GHz P-cores using direct die cooling, and throw on 8000 MT/s DDR5 with a Z790 Apex Encore for good measure. You're now somewhere around 30% faster in games than your previous setup, and GPU utilization will occasionally hit 90% instead of 70%

All for the neat sum of roughly 2000 USD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do you manage to draw this out for over 20 minutes? He even gets some of the basics like Zen 4 FCLK/UCLK sync wrong.

It's this simple:

UCLK is the clock frequency of the memory controller

MCLK is the clock frequency of the memory

FCLK is the clock frequency of the infinity fabric interconnect.

On Zen 1, these clock frequencies are always in sync.

On Zen 2 and Zen 3, running UCLK and FCLK at the same frequency reduces memory latency by a significant number of clock cycles. The goal is generally to run at the highest possible UCLK and FCLK (whichever caps out lower is the limit).

On Zen 4, running UCLK and FCLK at the same frequency provides no memory latency reduction. The goal here is to run at the highest possible MCLK and FCLK. UCLK = MCLK/2 is a very small performance deficit, so the tradeoff makes sense even if you only gain 10% MCLK.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If you're purely gaming, there's no reason to even consider the 14700K unless it's bundled for a lower price than a 7800X3D setup.

If you actually do so much multithreaded work that you really notice the benefits of a 14700K over a 7800X3D, you might as well go to a 14900K, because every minute saved helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

How would you have known that the 290 would perform better in 2016?

As for the price cuts, I remember the 780 Ti launch, and the 780 launch was effectively a cut from the Titan.

The 780 price cut was the reason for the jet engine cooler on the 290-series in the first place.

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