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shitjustdontwork. Three days have elapsed without updates to or from our community. (self.main)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by transientpunk to c/main

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I mod a community here, and for the last three days posts made to that community have not been showing up outside of this instance. Specifically, I have an account on Lemmy World, and I can't see any recent posts from the community I mod on that account.

Also, I follow several communities from other instances including lemmy.world and lemmy.ml and none of the content for those communities have updated here in the last three days, though when I check them from accounts I have with other instances, they all show up fine.

I have checked all of this on my mobile browser, my desktop browser, and Jerboa.

Does anyone know what's going on? Does this have anything to do with the steps @[email protected] has been taking to combat bots? This is really problematic, it's like we've been shadow defederated.

Edit: Seriously, why would someone downvote this post?

Edit 2: I'm not sure if this is related or not, but for the first time, I'm not able to respond to a Kbin users comment. That happened in this post.

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[–] TheDude 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey everyone,

A few days ago when we were under bot attack I rolled out a script to help me mitigate the attack. This script essentially calculated that rate at which certain IPs were posting and added them to a block list. Some of the IPs from other instances such as lemmy.ml were falsely added to this block list. I've since gone through all of the IPs and removed the ones that shouldn't have been there.

Please let me know if anyone is still having issues and I'll do my best to review your particular case in a timely manner.

[–] transientpunk 1 points 2 years ago

I figured it had to be something like this. Thanks for looking into this! Also, thank you for hosting this instance.

[–] JohnnyCanuck 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe not the same issue but I can't see communities with names longer than 20 characters here. There's a discussion and solution (I think) here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3449

Any chance of getting that fixed?

[–] TheDude 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hi there,

I've upped it to 50 characters.

[–] JohnnyCanuck 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working so there must be something else going on. I appreciate you trying the change for me though!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

FWIW sh.itjust.works was not searchable from kbin instances for the last 2-3 weeks until today. So things may improve soon.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Just as a note, I'm just reading this from kbin.social

[–] gonzo0815 11 points 2 years ago

Ok thanks, I thought I didn't understand some crucial point about federation or something.

The instance is behaving weird for some days and I wasn't sure if it might be connect for lemmy. When I switch instances in the settings I get way more posts than when I'm on sh.itjust.works, which is weird when they are federated, right?

Also I get a lot of errors, like "comment can't be found" when I'm trying to answer a thread or comment from another instance. I even had one situation where the comment I was trying to answer completely changed in the answer window, almost if there was some fuckup with the database.

I also can't see nsfw posts and the defaults in the settings don't have an effect anymore, so I always get "hot", but I set it to "top". I'm not sure if these bugs come from connect or the instance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can see your post from lemm.ee. Can you see my comment?

[–] transientpunk 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I can. It doesn't seem to affect all communities, and I haven't noticed problems with comments, except where the post also isn't showing up.

Edit: after looking at this post from my other account, I am seeing issues with comments. There are way less comments being shown on the other instance. Also some of my responses are there, and others aren't, even within the same thread.

[–] PCChipsM922U 4 points 2 years ago

Yep, I also mod a comm here and I've been having problems viewing comments or posts on other instances and vice versa. It's like it's stuck with federation, it's 3, 4 days behind on some instances.

[–] yata 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have experienced similar problems which I have posted about here earlier. Nothing has changed with that either. Still no comments showing up and subscription pending still being shown, as is on most other communities from outside instances which I have tried subscribing to. Although comments does show up on those, but I have no idea if it is showing all comments.

It seems very clear that while theoretically a great idea, the whole federation concept just doesn't work very well in practice yet.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find it odd that you guys are still having issues. Lemmy is working fine for me, and I'm subscribed to a bunch of communities on lemmy.ml and lemmy.world

[–] yata 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is indeed very odd. Nevertheless that is unfortunately what is happening.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Confirming, Shows up in my feed on my instance. Lemmyunchained.net

But can’t see anything for 3 days on Lemmy.world

[–] transientpunk 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thanks for the confirmation! shitjustdontwork right now

[–] Gongin 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They updated to a release candidate for better cpu performance, maybe the performance is a result of not doing everything 😂

[–] transientpunk 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was pretty surprised to see them use a release candidate for a production instance. But, what do I know

[–] imaqtpie 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We were actually one of the last servers to upgrade to 0.18.1 RC. And now we are on the release version. I'm not sure about the federation issues but I thought it was due to lemmy.world and lemmy.ml being overloaded, and not a problem coming from the sh.itjust.works side.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I don’t Think it’s anything your end.

[–] Socsa 6 points 2 years ago

This instance has had some weirdness with federation the entire time I have been here.

[–] can 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've noticed this issue as well. Posts from users here on communities on Lemmy.world would only get interactions from our users.

I don't think this post ever made it over.

This has been going on for a few days now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This issue is what made me create a lemmy.world account last night. Now I'm seeing posts and finding communities with no problems. There's definitely something broken with this instance.

[–] qwamqwamqwam 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm having the same issue with my community. Things haven't been syncing over for the past two days. Its a huge problem because the vast majority of activity is on lemmy.world or lemmy.ml, and we're effectively defederated from both at this point.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We aren't defederated from either, and I have no trouble seeing content from either of those instances.

The two instances were having trouble this week due to an influx of users and activity, plus being on an older version of Lemmy. But in the past couple of days that should have been resolved

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear to be resolved. Hoping that it will be, though. I enjoy the community and would like to keep my itjustworks account.

[–] loaf 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Same issue here. I ended up creating an account on lemmy.world to see if any of my posts/comments are showing up there.

None have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Confirming all posts are showing up from my new account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I never got my verification e-mail from sh.itjust.works so I just made a Lenny.world account. Seems broken.

[–] UsedCumSock 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Could the subscriber count on https://sh.itjust.works not matching up with the subscriber count shown on https://browse.feddit.de be a related issue?

On https://sh.itjust.works, [email protected] has 1.5k subscribers. But if you check on https://browse.feddit.de, that same community has 26k subscribers.

[–] transientpunk 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I could be wrong on this, so somebody please correct me if I am, but I think the subscriber count only reflects users from the instance you're currently checking.

So this instance has 1.5k users subscribed to [email protected], whereas https://browse.feddit.de may have 26k of their users subscribed.

I don't think that's related though.

[–] MaybeItWorks 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re correct. I asked this previously and got the answer that it is showing the number of subscribers from this instance.

[–] transientpunk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the confirmation!

[–] CannedTuna 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you! I’ve been wondering about the mismatch in subscriber count for a while. However I’ve noticed there seems to be sync issues where content on for example again [email protected] may have one stream of memes on hot or new, then you switch to a sh.itjust.works account and there’s a completely different feed. Tho after a couple hours the content will show up, so it may be a long delay.

Good to know the subscriber count doesn’t mean a community is missing instance subscribers

[–] UsedCumSock 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, interesting! I've learned something new today. Thank you! Is there a way to find out how many subscribers are there in total for a specific community?

[–] imaqtpie 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Use browse.feddit.de or lemmyverse.net/communities. The subscriber numbers shown there should be accurate

[–] PCChipsM922U 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Also, a quick question if I may. How many replies do you see in this post?

https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/558897

My counter says 9, I can only see 3 (4 including my own). ~~I can see all of them from other instances, but not from sh.itjust.works 🤷.~~ Scratch that, I can only see 4 from my other accounts as well. Don't know why the counter is messed up like that.

[–] qwamqwamqwam 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For some ungodly reason editing a comment sometimes adds to the comment count.

[–] PCChipsM922U 8 points 2 years ago

Oh, that makes sense... it's a bug 🤦.

[–] transientpunk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I only see 4 comments, and I see the counter says there should be 9.

[–] PCChipsM922U 2 points 2 years ago

Good, same as me, thanks 👍.