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[–] can 31 points 10 months ago

we know

And they're somehow surprised they're not getting more donations.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just another reason I donate to Kbin & not Lemmy.

[–] goat 10 points 10 months ago

good on ya!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Looks like more of a semantics argument to me.

[–] yata 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That is what the genocide denier wants you to think. It obviously isn't a semantics argument though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

I still wouldn't base my entire opinion on someone over one discussion regarding whether something is or isn't a genocide. I hope he doesn't like diet coke or chew with his mouth open.

[–] goat 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's why we refer to international organisations, or the United Nations

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This link doesn’t support the claim that the UN called these events a genocide. It lists all sorts of human rights violations on a massive scale, but it doesn’t use the word genocide.

I suppose the crux of the matter is that it was the USA, not the UN, and then some of its close allies who named the events a “genocide”.

After this the frontiers harden, nobody talks any more about the actual events, but about the terminology.

[–] goat 8 points 10 months ago

The UN can’t classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

UN is not calling it a genocide though? The entire report your link refers to does not mention genocide. It does make a clear point of massive discrimination etc though ä.

[–] goat 5 points 10 months ago

The UN can't classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

[–] Kttnpunk 7 points 10 months ago

lmfao this explains everything about the fediverse right here

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago