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The Senate passed a resolution Wednesday to make business attire a requirement on the Senate floor.

The moves comes after backlash to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer's (D-N.Y.) directive to scuttle the chamber's informal dress code, which was widely viewed to be inspired by Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.).

The bipartisan resolution requires that business attire be worn on the floor of the Senate, "which for men shall include a coat, tie, and slacks or other long pants."

The bill does not spell out what the attire includes for women.

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[–] [email protected] 214 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so glad the country doesn't have any actual problems that need to be addressed so the Senate can afford to spend time on nonsense like this.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think you hit the nail on the head with that one. We're facing another Republican engineered government shutdown but what's the #1 priority? Fashion.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I’m starting to think they also don’t want to see his arm tats that honor victims of gun violence. That would be another crisis unaddressed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't mention female attire...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

25 senators are women 15 of whom are Democrats (and 1 independent who caucuses with the Democrats) and it was a unanimous vote. Isn't that peculiar?

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, let's enforce a classist dress code to remind everyone how classist we are. That'll fix everything.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It certainly makes it more likely for the rich to be able to go to the senate. Especially if you're an especially big and tall guy like Fetterman who would have to get all of his suits tailor-made.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah it’s basically an attempt to be like the House of Lords in a country without nobility

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You might not have a nobility but you've sure as shit got an aristocracy. Cabots, Lowells, Hearsts, Kennedys...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It's the Senate, it's intended to be the "upper class."

The rabble is supposed to be in the House of Representatives.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The tie is the most useless piece of clothing ever invented. It serves no purpose (shut up about the original function, it no longer serves it) except to constrict your airway and dip into your spaghett.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

It serves no purpose

Autoerotic asphyxiation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What was even the original function anyway?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To please King Louis XIII.

During the 30 year war, Croatian mercenaries fought alongside the King in battle. To keep their jackets tied they used a piece of cloth which King Louis XIII took a strong liking to. He made this smart scarf a mandatory accessory for royal gatherings. Paying homage to the Croats who introduced this scarf to him, he named it ‘La Cravate’, which is still the French name for the necktie today.

Over the ages, the cravat has evolved into the modern necktie we wear today. Since their origins in military regiments, they have been a symbol of power and respect. Throughout the 19th century, they swept through the Western world. They were found in most universities, schools, sports clubs and gentlemen clubs.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

The original function of any dress code is always maintained by the aristocracy and adopted by the people to put on the same airs, never the other way around.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, cause the ex president with the most federal charges is in business attire and he is an upstanding citizen. Let’s focus on how people look instead of actual issues.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only ever about appearances with the repubs. They want the appearance of propriety. If they start dressing like their lessers, then The lessers might realize they are equals.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even trump might be out of code, unless high heels are acceptable business attire for men.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This is what's important to these people. They don't care about millions suffering every day, they don't care about the climate going to shit, they don't care about the economy. They're up in arms because someone might not wear a full suit in their presence. These are your "representatives".

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about instead of making sure they wear the correct clothing, you make sure they do their god damn fucking job of making life better for the citizens. Because that hasn't been happening for decades now and what they wear while fucking over Americans hardly matters.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago

This is the dumbest fucking thing

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ah yes formal business attire, the universal dress code for those who accomplish nothing while looking very important. Very appropriate

Ya know gym shorts and a t-shirt besides being infinitely more practical and comfortable would lead to confusion with actual hard working Americans who don't have the luxury of getting paid to do nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good thing they're focusing on the important things. Fucking Cunts!

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

Sure seems like they've got a lot of free time over there...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotta look profesh while they're not doing their jobs. It's like they're in competition with that disaster of a House to see which chamber can be the most useless.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine a world without conservatives. Immense wastes of energy and time like this would be a thing of the past.

Conservatism is a disease in need of a cure.

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[–] rustydrd 47 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If I was Fetterman, it'd now be my personal pet peeve to subvert this dress code whenever I could by showing up in the most ridiculous-but-formally-correct outfits.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yellow ties, mustard green coat, orange slacks?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Glad they are focused on the important things.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Why only men have specific requirements? This is not an attack on women but the ridiculousness of having a dress code that only specifies one gender.

I would go the malicious compliance route.

“which for men shall include a coat, tie, and slacks or other long pants.”

First up, there is no mention of a shirt...

Coat (n): A sleeved outer garment extending from the shoulders to the waist or below.

Lots of room for fun there.

Tie: (from wikkipedia) Variants include the ascot, bow, bolo, zipper tie, cravat, and knit.

Again, lots of fun.

slacks or other long pants

You get the idea by now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Honestly something along what you're suggesting was my first thought too but then that might hurt Fetterman when he runs for reelection. He beat Dr Oz by 3%, which is rather good, but Oz was a pretty terrible candidate. He might face significantly stiffer competition next time around and he probably wants to avoid a montage of him dressed silly on some attack ad.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Sir I must let you know that you are impugning upon the good reputation of cunts everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You know this is just going to result in a pride suit right? I 100% expect him showing up in rainbows. Should bring in cat ears as well.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Theater is the only thing U.S. Senate is good at. And maybe getting bribed, but that's beside the point.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So glad they can decide on what to wear instead fixing things to prevent a government shut down ..... phew I was so worried about their priorities there for a moment 😕

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pass a budget. Nobody should be getting paid until then. The 20 republican extremists holding the entire country hostage should be fined exorbitantly every day they refuse to work with everyone to pass a budget.

Fuck stuff like dress codes. I could give less of a shit if everyone was naked, literally doesn't matter vs getting the government properly funded.

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[–] atzanteol 29 points 1 year ago

Crisis averted! Good job senators! I know I'll sleep better now!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Who cares what people are wearing?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

40 something and still dealing with dumb shits in office.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems blatantly discriminatory on the basis of gender

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

These people don't know what the country needs and they don't care. They spend their time and our money making it illegal for people to dress in a way that makes them unhappy. Absolutely fucking useless.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

This is pure classism. They think they are better than us.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I think lawmakers getting paid during a government shutdown, free healthcare, and only work half the year is more concerning. They get more breaks than I get vacation time at work.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda weird they had to pass a resolution to overrule Schumer's non-resolution decision, but they did it by unanimous consent so if Schumer (or Fetterman) disagreed they could have stopped it. If Schumer and Fetterman are on board for this, they could have just reversed the earlier decision.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the penalty is what - a letter in your personal file? A fine (and to be paid by whom, if paid at all)? A physical removal from the space (and, again, by whom)? DJT and the modern GOP have shown that laws written concerning the presidency, congress, and the supreme court have no teeth whatsoever. Even congressional subpoenas and perjury no longer have any meaning as long as you're willing to ignore or flaunt them.

I actually agree with the desire for at least a minimum of decorum in the chambers, but the whole process is stupid to the extreme.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Literally cannot pass a budget on time for decades though.

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