The answer should be fairly obvious to anyone who's looked at an European map, there's a reason why the oldest cities are always around or near rivers. Also humans had bottle-like technologies since essentially forever, it's probably one of the first tools to be developed after "pointy stick".
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The “bell beaker” people and culture is a fun rabbit hole for anyone interested in ancient water carrying technologies
Pretty much yes. If you look at a map, you'll notice that most cities, especially old (like old old) ones are next to or near water sources. There are, of course, other reasons for this as well: building a settlement by water will also give you the opportunity to use boats, for transportation and shipping. Merchant cities tend to be by seas and oceans, because transporting cargo by ships is much more efficient than by land, especially before airplanes. Then there's fishing, crop irrigation, and just that humans like bodies of water.
But also, what do you exactly mean by water bottle? Because water transportation and storage vessels have been around for quite a while, and aqueducts have been built by various civilisations across history.
TiL that I'm early human. 1970s baby, but early human
I suspect they’d include “cups, glasses, canteens, water skins, etc” in the category of “water bottles”. :p
You know how many things you can just find on the ground that are hollow and can hold water? Even without making shit like a waterskin, humans had ways of containing liquids to travel with.
But also: Yes. Human populations still tend to be mostly clustered around sources of drinking water. Though our ability to move water around does make it possible to live elsewhere than a natural source.
Everyone has sippy bottles now but when I was young in the late 70s we played out all day and did not drink for 7 hours at a time and no one died. Alright one person died but mainly not.
My wife won't leave the house without several water containers as it she is crossing the god damn Sahara. We live in the North East, its not even dry! I always ask her how she survied childhood without stupid fancy bottles that are marketed. Fortunately she is patient with my crap and loves me...
I do this now and didn't have to as a kid...however, I have a weird kidney problem where my kidneys will just dump water, whether or not I have the water to spare. This means that I have a minimum water requirement of 4 liters a day. It's not as bad as when I was on a really horrible medication that started the whole issue. When I was on that medication I had to drink about 4 gallons of water a day.
End result: I have a stupid party trick where I can down a liter of fluid in about 10 seconds, and a gallon of fluid in about 5 to 10 minutes depending on how recently I've eaten. (I did give myself water poisoning once, but that took 8 gallons over about 14 hours)
Edit: Also, having multiple water bottles means I have somewhere to put all my awesome stickers!
You know the smell dirt makes when its wet? It's called petrichor and humans can smell it better than sharks smell blood in the water. It is detectable by the human nose at 0.4 parts per BILLION. This gave early humans a huge advantage in finding water when needed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrichor
Literally called dirtblood, I love it
Get dunked on, sharks.
There is an Indian perfume base called Mitti Attar which tries to replicate this smell. It's like damp moss at first scent, then develops into rain on hot sand. It is entrancing. Proper Mitti Attar sells for thousands and takes years to make.
I was trying to think of that word just a few days ago when I went outside and could smell that a storm was coming, then my ADHD kicked in an I forgot about it.
Animal bladders and other organs were used as portable water containers.
Or things like gourds
I was just gonna say, a squash that I cut in half, hollow out and dry is pretty low-tech stuff. Could probably use a coconut if you were in a pinch... Lot of options.
Where'd you get the coconut?
Swallow based delivery service
I dated a girl like that once.
We found them.
And skins, tanned, stitched, and treated with resin. Pottery is also an ancient skill.
Yes, humans used to live much closer to water sources. On a town level, if you didn't have a creek or river or water somewhere nearby you just didn't settle there. Available water was absolutely necessary for agriculture, domestic animals, cooking, washing, and of course drinking. On a personal level, you would go in the morning to a central well or water source and gather your water you would need for the day. Depending on the household needs it might be multiple trips with heavy, full vessels. You would put the water in to household water vessels, like a basin for cleaning or a ewer for washing or your cook pot. If you were thirsty at home, you would take a dipper (basically a ladle) and take some water from the household supply.
Where did you get the impression we didn't used to have water bottles? They weren't made of plastic or metal but humans have carried water with them for probably as long as we've used tools. You can carry water in drinking horns, in clay pots, wooden buckets, in dried out animal bladders or leather skeins, and there's literally a type of gourd called a "bottle gourd" which has been dried out and used as a personal water bottle for milennia across any region that can grow them. Don't underestimate human ingenuity, we didn't always have access to the same technology and materials but we have always been able to problem solve.
Adding to this, some plants and fruits have high water content (watermelons and some cacti), so you could keep your body hydrated without drinking water. For hunter-gatherers, who could likely be on the move away from water sources, this knowledge was crucial.
More interestingly, baobabs, huge "fat" trees found throughout the African continent, can be used as water tanks
For the most part, yes, at least on a large scale. Proximity to a water source was pretty much a requirement for developments for most of history.
On the smaller side of things, other commenters have already mentioned that we had ways to store water before bottles existed.
I know it's hard to believe, but in a majority of places on Earth, water is readily available.
I think it’s more accurate to say that water is readily available in places where humans are likely to go. Because, you know, humans don’t tend to go where there is no water.
Most of the water on earth isn't drinkable, it's salt water.
For now
(Evil Nescafe laughter): Muahahaha!
Really?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterskin
Also, there was an ice age. Not everyone lives in scorching climates. Theres fresh water around me 247/365. As waterskins are somewhat recent probably, in terms of evolutionary history.
We had water bottles way before plastic.... we used wood, mud, clay, stone, and animal parts to store water before recorded history...
Yes. Throughout history, people have almost always built their settlements close to major bodies of (fresh) water. For example, you'd be hard-pressed to find a major city anywhere in the world that doesn't have at least a stream near where it was founded, if not a full-blown river that still runs through the middle of it.
getting water used to be a daily chore. ever hear that song "jack and jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water?" or see the old kung fu movies where they train running water up staircases?
Or in areas of Africa where that is still a daily chore
Going backwards in time, they had metal and brass containers, before that they had wooden buckets and barrels, ceramic pots, carved out animal parts or fruit of plants.
Before farming, probably a good portion of the water early people subsisted on was from the food they ate. (Berries and fruit, fish, meat, etc.) Water might pool around rocky areas after rain, even if there was no stream nearby in a pinch.
For the most part, yes. That is why they tended to congregate around water sources. Even early settlements and towns and cities were near waters sources even after we had portable water containers because water is heavy and large numbers of people need a large water source.
But before we changed the environment significantly, there were a lot more potable water sources. More streams, more water pooled up after rains, etc. that could be ingested because of a lack of human pollution. If humans were within a days walking distance of a water source, they could do their hunting and gathering nearby and drink up afterwards.
Humans sweat. It is one of our superpowers and enables endurance hunting. Anthropologists theorize that early humans would have had to have developed water carrying technologies for this to be viable. They study primitive hunter gathers who still practice endurance hunting and they use water skins during the hunt.
You ever notice how every other animal manages to survive without water bottles? It was like that for most of human existence, before we figured out water skins and wooden cups and clay jugs.