You mean decent, hardworking capitalist Americans are subsidising a socialist hellscape??? 😯
this post was submitted on 30 May 2025
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Its more fascist America funds national socialist Israel.
Pffft, details shmetails. If it's got socialism in the name it's the devil. I don't wanna risk any of my tax dollars going to help me or - heaven forbid, my neighbor - when it could be used to push a hard working billionaire's pile that much closer to trickling down! I can almost feel that golden shower already!
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51st state with plausible deniability
Yeah right ... their own tax base is enough to cover the cost of public services like that ...
... but a genocide? ... Palestine ain't gonna genocide itself ... that shit costs money
A lot of the money goes towards to illegal colonial settlements. These cost far more in security and infrastructure and the social services there are much more expensive to get more people to go there for "good roads and schools".
Even before the genocide Israel has been heavily subsidized by the US and other allies.
As UNRWA has been covering much of the humanitarian obligations Israel has as an occupying force over the past half century the global community has been subsidizing Israel with dozens of billions too.
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Countries with nukes should never receive any aid for anything, ever.
That should be the price of having nukes.
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Whatever happened to the right wing talking point of “Take care of our country first”?
Remember when the right thought The Jewish bankers controlled the world. They made whole documentaries on it and everything. Crazy how fast the beliefs of all groups shift from year to year.
They still believe it, but at the same time they respect those Arab killing strong men.
The right always prefer strong men above everything else. Even their own countries.
The right wing part focuses on the eschaton with Israel in their death cult.
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I wish Trump would chicken out on this.
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This is both true, and not entirely accurate.
Israel spends something like $24 on their defense. The $3B that the the US gives them (and it's $3B, not $4B, based on what I can find) is largely in the form of military materials: ammunition, bombs, air defense systems, etc. So what we give them is about 20% of their total defense spend, and yeah, that's a lot.
But the flip side of that is that American workers in American factories are the ones building the bombs, missiles defense systems, making the bullets, etc.; the money that the gov't gives Israel ends up creating a benefit for workers in the form of work that wouldn't otherwise exist. I'd have to see a real economic analysis, but this might be a case of each dollar that the gov't spends creating more than a dollar of effect. (And yeah, I know that a lot of that effect is going to e.g. Raytheon shareholders rather than line workers. But still.)
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The fact that we see an economic benefit in terms of jobs and growth by giving Israel aid doesn't mean we should. Because we're directly funding the genocide of the Palestinians.
Israel spends something like $24 on their defense.
I assume there's supposed to be a B on the end of that figure. But it's funny picturing them spending just twenty-four bucks.
Yes, $24B, sorry.
If they spent $24.00 on their own defense, and the US gave them $3B, then, uh, they'd be 100% dependent on the US.
Imagine spending that 3 billions on American health care workers.. rather than Raytheon
It wouldn't even be noticeable. We spend a total of about $4.5 trillion [EDIT: on healthcare]; $3B is 0.07% of that total.
And, BTW, we have terrible outcomes for how much we spend.
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Isn't that all military equipment?
Which is worse. Like it's not that the US is subsidizing something good like higher education, but rather bombs and guns for faster genocide?
Money doesn’t have labels on it. If they don’t need to spend their own money on military they can spend it on other things. So you could argue the US is at least indirectly funding these things.
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Which is worse. Like it’s not that the US is subsidizing something good like higher education, but rather bombs and guns for faster genocide?
Israel is more likely to, if American subsidies were cut, to strip their social benefits than reduce the operations of a core aspect of their state.
Opportunity cost, and all that jazz. Think of it this way - if you were hell-bent on spending 100$ on art supplies per month, and some fellow came up and said "I'll give you 50$ of art supplies per month", what that really does is effectively free up 50$ for whatever else you might desire to use it for.
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The dumbass people in this country didn't get jealous of the universal health care they paid to institute in Iraq. There's no hope.
Foreign aid isn't given in the form of direct cash payments. Trump also seems to think foreign aid works that way.
If those numbers are to be believed... That's 1 dollar per person in Israel per day.
I was unfamiliar with the national dog of Argentina. I thought it was strange that it looks like a Staffordshire Terrier, so I looked it up and was delighted to learn that it's called the "Dogo Argentinio." Perfect fucking name, I love it.
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That's because it takes our tax dollars and turns it around and pays it to overpriced government contractors which is good for "the economy".
It is good for a certain economy for certain people, but it isn't good for us all.
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