Europe welcomes scientists from a country that does not value science.
this post was submitted on 18 May 2025
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You should tell Germany to stop arresting and banning people who post anti-genocide stuff on social media
Mmm... brains.
reverse brain drain, all the scientist that left europe decades ago, is probalby going to reclaim some of it back.
As does Canada.
Exactly the move you'd expect from the dumbest government in history... their strategy has the foresight of a bat with laryngitis
US dominance on pretty much anything is over
Harvard saying they wouldn't comply with Trump and fight it in court was great.
If they really wanted to do "The Right Thing", they have the billions to keep these projects funded for several years while they fight. But I guess that's too much to ask.
If they really wanted to do "The Right Thing", they have the billions to keep these projects funded for several years while they fight.
No, they don't. Where do you think they could just magic up money?
Edit:
"They have an endowment!"
What do you people think an endowment is? It's not a rainy day slush fund. It's thousands of individual funds that are invested which Harvard, and other schools, use to generate income. But it's the investment that generates income. If they spend down the endowment then it's gone and no more money for the future.
Think of it like a savings account where you live off the interest generated. If you spend the savings, no more interest.
Also - like 80% of that money must be spent in certain schools, types of research, supporting certain students, etc. They can't legally use it for anything else.
The donations that people have made over the years, giving them the largest endowment in world history?
It’s kinda like asking “how is Elon Musk going to pay for that?” I don’t know, how about with some of his money.
Harvard is known for having one of the most enormous endowments of any college anywhere.
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The Harvard University endowment, valued at $53.2 billion as of June 30, 2024, is the largest academic endowment in the world
That’s not how it works though. They just can’t put that money to anything (same with other higher education). If the Gates Foundation provided them $1B for research of AI… it can only go to that. If they use it for something else, Harvard can get sued.
Let’s not forget that the endowment tax is going up to as much as 18% (or higher) soon… once that big dumb bill gets passed.
These guys know the cost of everything and the value of nothing
I assure you they do not know the cost of everything. Example: DOGE didn't look at cutting expenses in any of this most of expensive programs, like military spending and social security.
Who needs research when you don't have a future? - America
How do you get a future if you don't do research? - Academia
Very unfortunate to the people affected Canada should try to recruit these researchers
Already happening.
I'm not even done with medical school and I get targeted advertisements about how well British Columbia treats their doctors.
canada, and europe has good med school, its just the pay in us is better, and its difficult to be certified in the usa as a foreign doctor, unless your from one of the above countries.
I'm already in a US medical school, and the thing the ads don't address is the complexity of Canadian medical licensing on top of the immigration system there.
already happening, doctors choose to stay in canada now, instead of a bougie position in ucla.
Well, Europe welcomes them, their talents and their research. And it's a stable place, which in any other circumstance would just be the bare minimum instead of an actual benefit.
Can't wait to move. Fuck this country.
I'm leaving a university in the US that's not heavily reliant upon soft money (grants/donations), but we're still losing research support in various ways to this crazy administration. I start at a school in Europe in the fall. I guess I'll go teach and do engineering research there since the US isn't really interested in having academia exist.
congrats on getting out, is yours a PHD/MS, or a bs? i only have a bs in CMB,, since labs are notoriously hard on experience and research.
I'm at the PhD level. I'm very fortunate to be in a place with more mobility in academia circles.
Very excited to watch as the US lags behind in research because basically anyone with more intelligence than President Cheeto left for Canada, Europe, Australia or New Zealand.
phds, mds are usually the first to leave once a govt trainsition into a full fascist state, they know they are the first argets. then they will start persecuting POCS, and lgbtq+, and enemies, and then thier own loyalists,. it is a matter of time before US military tech falls behind, if they expel too many scientists from the aeronautics, weapons industry, via the Universities they source them from.
remember what happened to germany when most of thier jewish scientist had to flee, no atom bomb for them.
America healthy again. If no research.
That's exactly what happened in 2020 isn't it? Trump wanted to stop Covid testing, because less testing meant fewer confirmed cases. Then thousands of people died every single day from uhh... something else.
Next foot!
I said next foot!
Good
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