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Spez talks to NY Times (www.nytimes.com)
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[-] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

... and they totally omitted Aaron Swartz as a founder.

The actions of Reddit the last few years (and especially the last few months) have probably increasingly caused Aaron to spin in his grave so much that he could power Los Angeles and San Francisco both with his beyond-the-grave outrage if anyone cared to harness that energy source.

Also a meh article, with spelling and grammatical errors (deliberate?) and omitting even simple details.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago

Not even mentioning Schwartz was a huge indicator that this is a bullshit paid-for story from Reddit/Spez. Absolutely NOBODY who would bring up the founding of Reddit without mentioning Schwartz unless they were paid not to. This is a hack piece from a paid shill.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

NYT don't do "paid" stories.

However, the journalism is superficial (lazy) and seems to skim across the surface. This was written by someone who doesn't understand the tech -- so they interviewed someone pro (Spez) and someone con (the super mod) -- did some ping pong with quotes and TADA! An article!

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Reporter: To sum up, this expert representing the major Meteorological associations says it is currently raining. And this expert from the "Crack Pot Society" says it isn't. I have a window right next to me and....both sides make good points so you'll have to decide for yourself.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

"GROW UP" says /u/spez, former moderator of /r/jailbait

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thats actually a wrong rumour , he was appointed mod of r/jailbait unknowingly , didnt mod jailbait , and anything.

he also wasnt it willingly. it was in a time when reddit was still young and allowed Moderator appointments.

we shouldnt spread lies.

[-] ImFresh3x 8 points 1 year ago

Dude was a founder and admin of the site, allowed himself to be appointed, and allowed the sub to flourish. I think we’re grasping at straws here. But I get your sentiment about being honest.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

While he was appointed without his knowledge, he/reddit left that sub available for years without doing a thing while it was reported all of the time. So still a shitbag.

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[-] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

Reddit is now further away from a public offering than it was last year, Mr. Huffman said.

Well, that slightly warms my heart.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

That's an odd way of saying he failed at his job.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

What a disgusting article. I wonder how much spez paid for it, or if the author (apparently a 'longtime Redditor') had his account threatened. That, or maybe he's just so used to corporate bootlicking that his first response to seeing a distressed billionaire was to start lapping at his soles.

Also, this puff piece reeks of arrogance. We fucking made that website what it was, and now this pathetic weasel thinks he no longer needs us? And there's dumbasses on Reddit who defend this shit???

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

And there's dumbasses on Reddit who defend this shit???

You gotta remember that there are tons of casual users (which probably outnumber 3rd party app users, if we're being honest) that haven't ever known anything else, and they see all this noise as an interruption to their day-to-day scrolling.

One of the subs I used to frequent most often (r/hockey) was full of users who were pissed that it was blacked out for the final game of the Stanley Cup playoffs, so there was no live thread for the last (and biggest, most important) game of the season, and thought anyone who supported the blackout was just being whiny.

I've just accepted that Reddit's base has shifted, its no longer what I remember it being, and I'm not a part of it.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Very likely Spez is just having bots everywhere say what he wants like this article. No way a normal human would think this is ok. We've seen many examples of this, like with Elon

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spez, or some other party involved in the financialization of Reddit and has an incentive to tilt opinion maybe. It's all the kind of things that seem to happen.

I have seen the kind of thing you're talking about plenty of times of Reddit and twitter in the past. Where users are shitting on a company, then all of these weird apologetic comments start coming out of nowhere, that nowhere near that many normal people would be spouting in defense of a shit move by a shit company.

The lack of negativity and divisiveness right away was noticable on here. The responses all looked much more respectful too.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

or if the author (apparently a 'longtime Redditor') had his account threatened

Why such an unbelievable theory?

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

The whole framing that Spez is bringing maturity is incredibly disingenuous. The "mature" approach is to impose change with no attempt at reaching consensus over a community-driven platform?

What is the mature part of expecting volunteers to keep performing free work as they are actively antagonized? Is he going to pay all moderators and dissatisfied content creators? I don't think so.

They are just using "mature" as codeword for monetized. Or maybe in that classist sense of "learn to submit to your betters, peons".

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

They want reddit turn reddit into a cash cow and we are the product.

It’s sad.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You're only the product if you still visit there.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Is NYT paid to totally distort the truth like they did in that article?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The day after moderators closed down hundreds of Reddit forums...

Hundreds? I mean, I guess that's true, if you say 88 hundreds... Almost 90 hundreds.

I'm not even to the interview, and I'm already having trouble swallowing this article.

Edit: I guess "Spez talks to NY Times" was hyperbole... There's no interview, lol

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

NYT: manufacturing consent since before you were born, and after you die

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

While New York times is far better than the New York Post. And the Washington Post is far better than Washington times. They are all for profit ventures owned by thieving wealthy capitalists. They've always pushed their own perception and agenda. Whether or not we ever realized it. And that agenda has never been about sustainability, fairness, or accuracy. It's always been this way to one extent or another. It's just that the consolidation of ownership etc as made the market much less competitive and accountable.

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Well there's the problem

Reddit, which is based in San Francisco, has in recent years tried to turn from a rough-and-tumble internet message board into a full-fledged social media business by adding executives and strengthening its advertising capabilities.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

The financial shit heads weasel their way into everything and fuck it up on us. This is what I like about this setup here, from the ground up it doesn't seem like it can be bought our and IPO'd.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Everything has to be increasingly profitable and it's maddening.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Mr. Huffman and Alexis Ohanian founded Reddit in 2005 as a site with a countercultural attitude toward the internet and its advertising-based economy. Reddit espoused free speech at any cost, zero ads and an insular culture that laid a foundation for Web 2.0’s meme culture.

Well how things have changed.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Made an account on Lemmy 3h ago, best thing I've done to counter the need to constantly check Reddit :)

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

oh fuck yoooooou.. with that bullshit, using mature as a way to shame people. WE FUCKING MADE YOU.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

This week I realized that I'm reading these "about Reddit" stories more as a spectator than an involved party anymore. I've moved on. Feels good not to care enough to care.

The nice thing about Reddit's self-defeating move is we don't have to do anything about it. It's self-defeating.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Never thought of Reddit as a "social media" site. It sounds like he's trying to turn it into Facebook, bloated and mainly used for corporate business and your grandma.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Damn, I wonder if the author of that fluffpiece spit or swallowed after he was done.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Neither. He's still gargling.

Also, love spez's constant deflection on mods, and here specifically super mods, being the source of the problem. Most of us have been on the internet for the majority of our lives. We know the difference between a butt hurt, power tripping mod, and a mod who's concerned for the community they've been participating in for 10+ years.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

They sure left out a ton. Nothing about accessibility etc

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

And framed it as just a few dozen moderators who protested. Nothing the user polls, etc. He notes that the users have "outsized power" over the site. Bitch, the users are the site.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"Spez talks to the NY Times" sounds like a dream I woke up from and tried to shake off.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"Spez paid NY Times for a half-assed article"

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The final countdown for the stock ticker fury

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing with us!

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