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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/372863

cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Just a reminder that politico is owned by the Axel Springer group which is a real force of bad for Germany and Europe. Their media campaigns often try to push the public opinion in a right wing conservative direction.

Their biggest shareholder (35%) is KKR (an American global private-equity and investment company) that use the might of the media group to sway the public opinion against climate friendly actions/policies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Thanks for that, I will be making sure to avoid them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

As an American I think I have a good way for the fediverse to gain momentum as people flee fascist US tech companies.

achem….

“Europe! Canada! Fucking HELP! We broke everything again!”

Seriously though, while government-run and “official” instances may not be a fit for many of us here, it could make huge strides with mainstream users. Maybe getting a large percentage of people invite onboard in a small country or two could be the seed that gets it to spread.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

Fedi is doing fine whether or not Nazi platforms crumble.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biggest problem with twitter/X is so many companies mess you around until you call them out on it, then things tend to get resolved how they should have been.

I truthfully have always seen that as Twitter/X's only use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It was the same on the municipal level for me. I can call 311 or write to them, but it was kind of nice to be able to tweet at my neighbourhood and have people interacting with them and me on local issues.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (10 children)

They're all going to bluesky because for some reason as soon as social media gets involved, the wonderful human ability to pattern match just gets switched off.

[–] zqps 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For most people it's unfortunately just " is it like Twitter" - both in terms of accessibility and algorithmic content suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I think a sad part of this is due to people wanting that vapid dopamagic response the algorithm provides.

Is it bad for us? Yes.

But addicts are going to addict 🫤

I know lots of people who made a fediverse account easy enough, but just end up back on the algorithm platforms as there's no effort required for discovery.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

For the longest time there just wasn't enough activity so you'd get bored and stop checking back. There's enough people now that this isn't an issue anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think it's more going to be more like twitter than they're bargaining for.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Except for the fact that most people dont like jumping through multiple hoops to register an account / need to do research beforehand to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you Google "sign up for mastodon" the first result you get is a sign-up page for mastodon.social which is the default instance. The sign up page is straight forward. I get we're all coddled by iPads or whatever but this argument evades me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What is instance? There are two buttons - sign up for mastodon or choose another instance, I just want to register etc etc.

People dont care for decentralization, they want to sign up and share a link.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Listen I just don't have sympathy for it at this point. If people insist on maintaining iPad-only tech literacy then they can catch up with any average intelligence 4 year old.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People don't like to read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You said multiple, so name three hoops

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

I already said them down the chain. Also I am not your monkey to be doing tricks for you.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A lot of our biggest communities still have like two mods taking care of everything and are prone to cherry picking. It‘s the same old forum structures where the internet bubble effect is just as strong if not stronger than on larger, already problematic platforms. Some of the things I‘ve seen and experienced lately bring back memories from those internet forum days. Good ones but also the worst ones. And I have to admit it makes me doubt the Fediverse is actually scalable. There‘s just a lack of accountability in the end.

Which is not to say a federalized platform isn‘t an alternative to giant corporations. Those have their own problems and fair share of fuck ups. But I think I‘m already starting to see the limits of the Fediverse. At least in it‘s current stage.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

The fediverse is much more than just lemmy. That being said i also disagree for lemmy. Drama between mods and communities was a regular thing on reddit. Still reddit managed to grow quite big before the bots took over. And companies are in no way more accountable to the users. Look at what happened with twitter under Musk. The only realistic choice you have as a normal user is to leave. And in the fediverse leaving a shitty instance still allows you to connect with all the other content from a different instance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The fediverse is about options. If you don't like how someone else runs their platform or community you can create your own. It's awesome because you don't get locked into one platform. And in the future I think we will see more big companies and organisations running their own stuff. But I agree that at the moment it is not what "normal people" are looking for and it will take quite some time until it develops. But to be fair the same was the case for reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Instance admins have crashed out before and things keep working

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