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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Are you guilty?' said Winston.

'Of course I'm guilty!' cried Parsons with a servile glance at the telescreen. 'You don't think the Party would arrest an innocent man, do you?' His frog-like face grew calmer, and even took on a slightly sanctimonious expression. 'Thoughtcrime is a dreadful thing, old man,' he said sententiously. 'It's insidious. It can get hold of you without your even knowing it. Do you know how it got hold of me? In my sleep! Yes, that's a fact. There I was, working away, trying to do my bit—never knew I had any bad stuff in my mind at all. And then I started talking in my sleep. Do you know what they heard me saying?'

He sank his voice, like someone who is obliged for medical reasons to utter an obscenity.

'"Down with Big Brother!" Yes, I said that! Said it over and over again, it seems. Between you and me, old man, I'm glad they got me before it went any further. Do you know what I'm going to say to them when I go up before the tribunal? "Thank you," I'm going to say, "thank you for saving me before it was too late."'

'Who denounced you?' said Winston.

'It was my little daughter,' said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. 'She listened at the keyhole. Heard what I was saying, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don't bear her any grudge for it. In fact I'm proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway.'

George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

It’s a Luigi time!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Starting to think this is a tipping point actually. I won’t hold my breathe but there are signs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the problem, is the people currently protesting arnt magats, its only the progressive, not everyone is on board with that yet, until the republicans are doing it to, something will change.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Lots are former maga believe it or not. Now maga tends to win through gerrymandering not popularity and tend to be more geographically isolated, so they don’t have the numbers dems do and are more stubborn, but it’s happening.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler completely dismantled democracy in 53 days. Trump has been in office for 88 days.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Weimarer Republic was a very young democracy, it existed only for 15 years and before that Germany was a monarchy. Trump is dismantling the oldest democracy at the moment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

To add to what you're saying, the Weimar republic was not a really a democracy when Hitler got in power; it was already ruled by decree, with a reactionary minority (Hindenburg, Papen, Schleicher and al) aiming to ignore parliament and preserve the nobility.

In early 1933 a German observer might have hoped the authoritarian trend was just a temporary thing and the presidential clique would have to bend to the parliament eventually, since they were continually losing support.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think the US is the oldest democracy as San Marino has been around for a long ass time.

When exactly you consider San Marino an Independent entity could be debated but def older than the US.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (41 children)

Followed by US natural born citizens by year's end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Year's end feels like forever away

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not how you use this meme.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

that’s exactly how they used this meme

[–] ImmersiveMatthew 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I just saw this poll (not mine and cannot verify integrity), that if accurate, would suggest Maga are loving it.

[–] WoodScientist 9 points 1 day ago

The hard truth is that fascists cannot be redeemed or convinced. He was quite popular among a good portion of the German population long after the war. Even into the 1950s a large portion of the population still didn't accept Germany's responsibility for the war. The truth is a lot of the generation that was most affected by the Nazi propaganda, the age bracket that really voted Hitler into power? Most of them never lost those Nazi ideals and kept them right until they died of old age. There's a reason so many works of fiction in the second half of the 20th century feature groups of old Nazis working one evil scheme or another.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I genuinely think that most maga just are fully uneducated about what is currently happening. Most probably don't even know that people have been disappeared. Their bubble is so fucking densely packed with stupid, nothing real gets in

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf, we've spent the last 8+ years making sure echo chambers become the name of the game and completely breaking down discourse from "across the aisle" so to speak to the degree where we mostly don't interact with them, and they mostly don't interact with us. We've set it up like this seemingly intentionally, if all they do is watch fox and truth social and neither of those places are talking about it (tbf I'm kinda with you on this, idk if they are talking about it because I'm not there either, so), how can we expect them to have heard about it?

Like sure we're all aware of it here, where they aren't, but have they heard of it where they are? And how do we fix it, go there ourselves and tell them? Might be too late, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Something will have to happen that punches through all bubbles. I hate to say it but the most likely scenario at this point is a mass casualty event that is unquestionably perpetrated by the trump regime. May shock enough of them out of it, but likely would be spun as justified somehow.

That's it though. I can't think of anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

they are constantly distracted with outrage, so they dont know the actual things are going on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ironic. that phrase coming from Lemmy is le pure distilled irony hahaha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I agree. But it is true. The difference in the outrage is whether anything is verifiable.

We have facts, they have fee fees

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Even if they do know, they almost certainly are buying into the 'he's a criminal and deserves to be deported' bit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I have ran into them and most didn't even know the guy they sent to El Salvador was fully legal

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