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One of the most basic tenets of cybersecurity is that you must “consider your threat model” when trying to keep your data and your communications safe, and then take appropriate steps to protect yourself.

This means you need to consider who you are, what you are talking about, and who may want to know that information (potential adversaries) for any given account, conversation, etc. The precautions you want to take to protect yourself if you are a random person messaging your partner about what you want to eat for dinner may be different than those you’d want to take, if, hypothetically, you are the Secretary of Defense of the United States or a National Security Advisor talking to top administration officials about your plans for bombing an apartment building in Yemen.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Your threat model is being authoritarian + a moron.

They're using Signal with disappearing messages instead of official channels because they don't want their conversations documented for accountability. It's the same shit they relentlessly blasted Hillary for.

I was most disappointed when I read that he left the group chat. Missed opportunity for some top-class trolling:

We are good on OPSEC

Are you really tho? 👀 🥸 😱

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was running better OPSEC than the morons in charge.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Well, the bar was low…

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I was most disappointed when I read that he left the group chat. Missed opportunity for some top-class trolling:

Although that may have had him arrested/raided for accessing most secret information he lacks clearance for, so leaving upon finding out it was the real thing and not a joke group was the better move.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He didn't "access" anything, it was sent directly to him.

[–] jubilationtcornpone 3 points 1 day ago

Remember when the Governor of Missouri tried to have a guy arrested for notifying the state of Missouri that they had a breach in one of the state websites, making peoples PII publicly visible?

That's the kind of idiots you're dealing with here. "We added you to a group chat by mistake and it's all YOUR fault."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But that obviously wouldn't stop them from having him disappeared. Heck I don't even think that's off the table now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Probably not, especially now that he's leaking the previously undisclosed classified information (that the people involved insisted was not classified). But them's the brakes when you're a journalist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think even the Trump administration is just about bright enough to realize that disappearing a top journalist wouldn't go well for them. Especially if he never turned up again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I really don't think they'd care. Until someone shows them they're not untouchable, why wouldn't they?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The reporter is a former IDF soldier, there is no way he would face any real blowback from Trump. There is a reason they had his number to add to the group and it's because they were already feeding him information. The Atlantic is just a left coded mouthpiece for the State Department.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So your conspiracy is that a left-wing aligned journalist was in the phone of a right-wing politician. Therefore it's his fault he received the information and shouldn't have reported it?

Really? Even the flat Earth people would think that's stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Lol, I didn't say any of that. But it's a fact Goldberg has been a mouthpiece for the State department going back to at least the Iraq war in my opinion. He's not a Trump guy but just doesn't want to piss off any current administration so he won't lose his access.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

MAGA Administration Secure Communication Assessment Procedure:

  1. Are you Hillary Clinton?
    ☐ Yes    ☐ No

If No, discontinue assessment and do whatever the fuck you want.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is one of the greatest headlines in the history of tech journalism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Its actually perfect. No notes. No possible improvements.

This deserves some kind of award.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I recall hearing that professional poker players hate playing against novices, because novices are so unpredictable. It's really hard to plan a defense against someone(s) who are so incompetent that you have no idea what's going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's why I win at poker. I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm always putting most of my chips in, whether I have nothing, or a pair of 2s.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago

That's probably why you lose at poker, too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's why drunk poker is so much fun lol. (Note: Don't bet too much money. And only play with friends, if possible.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Reminds me of the time that one of my flat mates managed to actually convince a bunch of girls to play strip poker, and then it turned out he didn't know how to play.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

I actually got kicked out from a poker club in college because of this. I wasn't "playing properly".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

this is what we used to call a "layer 8" issue

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Military gear generally has tons of anti-moron safeguards. Unfortunately, Signal is for civilians.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Which also means these conversations were on an unapproved app on an unapproved device. Actual government phones wouldn't be able to get Signal, right?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Government secure phones are special hardware made by the NSA. They are nothing like civilian phones. Obama got the NSA to lock down his Blackberry but I doubt that is doable with today's mainstream smartphones.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/STU-III

[–] ricecake 5 points 4 days ago

I actually wouldn't be shocked if it was possible with modern smartphones. A significant amount of money is available to be made from federal security work, and meeting the NSA criteria has benefits that extend to companies that work in the federal security space as well.

[–] 9488fcea02a9 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The last stu-3 stopped working in 2009.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yes they have different stuff now, but same idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

As long as you can flash them, everything's possible.

In that spirit: Fuck Apple to hell.

[–] darkdemize 10 points 4 days ago

I have a government-issued iPhone. It has Signal on it, and I have access to the appstore. It's also not allowed to be used for anything but unclassified communication and isn't permitted inside restricted areas.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By 2028 "alcoholic idiot" will be the only condition still protected by the ADA.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

Finally, the recognition I deserve

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Another 9/11 scale fuckup is all but guaranteed, mark my words.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yup, people are going to die, and it is going to be their fault... and they won't care. Maybe the American people will. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Americans will be pissed, but at the end of the day nothing measurable will come of it. We'd have to be straight starving to get off our asses and get shit done.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And by then they'll already have declared martial law.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

That's gonna happen when a riot occurs or a protest gets violent. Presidents can do it for any length of time, and only Congress has the power to reign them in. And of course, none of them would do that, so it's "Marshall" Law until they crown Trump or Vance emperor.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 4 days ago

I'm cool with starving, just don't touch my internet service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

But her emails, but Benghazi.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

about your plans for bombing an apartment building in Yemen.

Then maybe don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Can we just imagine if al Qaeda had added a journalist to their group chat regarding a bombing?