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I was watching the RFK Jr questioning today and when Bernie was talking about healthcare and wages I felt he was the only one who gave a real damn. I also thought "Wow he's kinda old" so I asked my phone how old he actually was. Gemini however, wouldnt answer a simple, factual question about him. What the hell? (The answer is 83 years old btw, good luck america)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

So stop using them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Damn those chinese censors!!!... wait

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Google has implemented restrictions on Gemini's ability to provide responses on political figures and election-related topics. This is primarily due to the potential for AI to generate biased or inaccurate information, especially in the sensitive and rapidly evolving landscape of politics. Here are some of the key reasons behind this decision:

  • Mitigating misinformation: Political discourse is often rife with misinformation and disinformation. AI models, like Gemini, learn from vast amounts of data, which can include biased or inaccurate information. By limiting responses on political figures, Google aims to reduce the risk of Gemini inadvertently spreading misinformation.
  • Avoiding bias: AI models can inherit biases present in their training data. This can lead to skewed or unfair representations of political figures and their viewpoints. Restricting responses in this area helps to minimize the potential for bias in Gemini's output.
  • Preventing manipulation: AI-generated content can be used to manipulate public opinion or influence elections. By limiting Gemini's involvement in political discussions, Google hopes to reduce the potential for its technology to be misused in this way.
  • Maintaining neutrality: Google aims to maintain a neutral stance on political matters. By restricting Gemini's responses on political figures, they can avoid the appearance of taking sides or endorsing particular candidates or ideologies. While these restrictions may limit Gemini's ability to provide information on political figures, they are in place to ensure responsible use of AI and to protect the integrity of political discourse.
[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This response seems strangely AI-y

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

It was written with Deepseek, so it's the good AI.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This seems reasonable, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

So American LLM's get to censor politics of their choosing but Chinese LLM's do not. Amazjng.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Now ask DeepSeek about Tiananmen Square

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

How about a more apt comparison to the type of stuff DeepSeek has gone viral for censoring?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Does not use the word concentration camp

Despite the injustices they faced many Japanese sought to demonstrate their loyalty to the Unites States

Look at my amazing propaganda

My sides

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What's the knowledge cutoff date for the model? Is that even a thing on Gemini? I've been pretty intentional about not using it.

Is it from before Musk became such an overt political figure? I genuinely don't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It calls Twitter X, so to answer the last question: no

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Gemini doesn't really have a cutoff date.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dunno if your typo was intentional or not, but all I see in this thread is that somehow a typo is a way to bypass whatever block they have on discussion related to political figures. Which is bonkers. The great minds at the Goog somehow missed a pretty obvious workaround.

[–] Naz 2 points 16 hours ago

That's hysterical. LLMs typically know what you're talking about, so if you misspell, they can still figure out what you're trying to say.

Holy shit that's funny

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or you can ask it to respond in pirate English, bypasses a lot of blocks

[–] TriflingToad 3 points 21 hours ago

arrr my matee. Where be the nearest fine madens I've been seein' in this here advert? 🦜🏴‍☠️⚔️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

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Which feels poetic.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not just Bernie, it doesn't reply to questions about trump either. I guess they don't want the AI to reply to political questions with biased opinions from the internet, which is fair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

????? Hitler?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Gemini sounds like me in my 20's "don't talk trouble, won't be trouble"

[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Why would you use a chatbot to attempt to obtain factual information?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Maybe it's easier to talk to than a real person. Real people have differing opinions, which is rude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Have you seen the web lately?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I mostly can't understand why people are so into "LLMs as a substitute for Web search", though there are a bunch of generative AI applications that I do think are great. I eventually realized that for people who want to use their cell phone via voice, LLM queries can be done without hands or eyes getting involved. Web searches cannot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

While I mostly agree, I have used LLMs to help me find some truly obscure stuff or things a normal web search would take a long time to sift through a lot of sources that are too generalized. An LLM can give you the exact thing from a more generic search, then I can take that specific output to find the detailed source.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because web search was intentionally hobbled by Google so people are pushed to make more searches and see more ads.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I still use web search all the time, I just don’t use Google. There are great alternatives:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Or all of the above, using SearXNG.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Local LLM gang represent! ✌️

Local LLMs aren't perfect but are getting more usable. There's abliterated models and uncensored fine tunes to choose from if you don't like your LLM rejecting your questions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have dabbled with running llms locally, I'd absoluteley love to but for some reason amd dropped support for my GPU in their ROCm drivers, which are needed for using my GPU for ai on Linux.

When I tried it fell back to using my cpu and I could only use small models because of the low vram of my RX 590 😔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Dont give up you got this! I had luck with using vulkan in kobold.cpp as a substitute for rocm with my amd rx 580 card.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

The only mildly infuriating thing is that people keep posting this shit

[–] MrScottyTay 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They've politicised age! What's next!?🕴️

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This will be a blanket filter on his name, not his age. And if anything they are trying to de-politicise gemini.

Not that i agree with that practice, personally.

But its not fair to say they are politicising age by omitting any responses related to a political figure.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It looks like they disabled responses about current major political figures.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

As OP's query regarding RFK Jr. yielded a response he can be considered "not a major political figure" then, I guess. Nice burn, Gemini 🤭.

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