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[–] [email protected] 3 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

Yogthos is either a fully paid professional propagandist or a highly skilled amateur. Probably the latter.

I'd call him(?) the single worst person of lemmy for the reason that every time he speaks of things that have nothing to do with politics, he seems like an absolutely cool dude. I remember even that in the first weeks of Russia's aggression on Ukraine, he was being kinda somber and realistic about it. But then The Message somehow reached him and he started spouting Russia's propaganda at full blast. He's clearly intelligent and literate while doing this, which is just doubly sad.

In him, Communism has completely ruined a perfectly good person, and it's a tragedy every time it happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

Lmao, I blocked him so long ago I forgot about his existence. Now look what you brought there, a forgottenone!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Lmao, it's yogthos. Canada's most notorious freedom fighter lmao.

/s.

That dip couldn't find the freedom he is "fighting" for if Marx drew him a map with directions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, the reason he's so happy about everything Russia does is that he's a software engineer with over a decade of experience living in Canada, he's living the cozy life and literally never going back to Russia because he's way too soft for that at this point.

That particular post also got me banned from the community. I said something to the tune that I'll agree with the state department on China, North Korea and Russia/Ukraine, but disagree on Cuba and Israel/Palestine, which probably makes me more of a leftist than all those dictator simping tankies. Someone did not like me pointing that out.

You ever point out to those people that Russia and China are very much NOT communist countries nowadays and people only simp for them because it's opposition to American global hegemony... Yeah you'll just get banned. I've been banned from .ml memes AND hexbear memes communities by now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago

Yogthos is always here to provide the shittiest of takes and the most phallical of fallacies.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 25 points 5 hours ago

It almost feels like posting yogthos is cheating

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I honestly can't tell if these .ml guys in these discussions are trolling or just spouting retarded nonsense and calling everyone a Nazi for the sake of it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

I wonder how many of them work in russia and china. their shittakes are hilariously tanky

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, no judgement, but we're trying to cut down use of the r-term around here, as a courtesy to those who it's been used to unfairly hurt. Just for future reference.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 54 minutes ago (2 children)

And on and on the euphemism train goes, where's the next stop? There's going to be a slur for the mentally deficient, tell me which one you endorse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 47 minutes ago

Fuck's sake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 46 minutes ago

None. Don't insult people over stuff they can't control. Call them ignorant shitheads not ugly/retarded/etc.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago

Yogthos is a clown

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Yogthos drank the vatnik koolaid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

The best part is that he is a very well paid software engineer living in ThE WeSt.

Couldn't be more of a hypocrite if he fuckin' tried.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

When in ml, do as the red fascists do.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

I dont get how tankies can support a "communist" nation like China that has an investor class and whose system requires the mistreatment of the proletariat.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago

"Because they'll eventually take away their wealth or kill them" is an argument I've actually seen on .ml. I'm not against the sentiment of getting rid of the capitalists but cmon, when someone says China isn't socialist and points at a clearly capitalist behavior you can't be "it's still socialist because the capitalist thing will be fixed in the future". Then every country might as well be socialist, we'll just fix capitalism at some later date.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At least China goes through the motions of being Communist. They also somehow support 21st century Russia which is just openly an authoritarian oligarchy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

My 'favorite' is when they defend clerical fascism in Iran as some kind of fantastic anti-capitalist development,

[–] [email protected] 3 points 57 minutes ago

As a side note Islamic theocracy is immune to fascism given the fact that the ideal state in Islam is a theocracy. Theocracies and fascism are incompatible due to the supremacy of the faith in one vs the other.

Iran is just another theocratic totalitarian state. They are not fascists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The leftists allied with the religious nutjobs in the revolution, then got murdered immediately afterwards because the religious nutjobs didn't want a leftist government that tolerated religion, they wanted an authoritarian theocracy. Some people somehow think that any leftist-backed revolution always goes brilliantly and ends up with utopian socialism or communism and no one ever exploits the post-revolutionary power vacuum for their own ends. That isn't compatible with what happened, so instead, they must believe that the leftists survived being murdered and now run Iran.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

Communists also literally do not care about democracy and seem to strongly believe that if anyone in the country wants something pretty socialist then than justifies overruling the reat of the country with all the military power it can muster if neecessary.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 hours ago

Don't worry, someone will be along shortly to recommend 2000 pages of communist literature that wouldn't even prove their point even if you read it all.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because they don't support communism. They just like one version of ogliarchy better than the other.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago

They're authoritarians not communists ie. the ole schtick.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yogthos is the kind of piece of shit that "critically supports" bombing Ukrainian kindergartens and maternity wards as long as, somewhere in the world, at least one Western tear is shed over it. Blocking them makes the fediverse far less unpleasant.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Wonder why that user account is above the rules of the instance and its communities. The modlog is full of examples which should apply to their behavior as well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Lemmy.ml has banned him a couple of times for short periods though. Lemmygrad.ml is obviously perfectly ok with everything he's saying. Some instances (such as the one I'm using) have also blocked him permanently.

[–] Justas 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They're a mod of several .ml communities. Just like every communist dictatorship, laws and rules don't matter when it's the one in charge breaking them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Let's not pander the charade of that being communism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Perhaps there should be a new word for this communism that doesn't oppress

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

Isn't it just Marxism or communism.

Like democracy doesn't have a new word because some people oppress in the name of it

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 14 hours ago

Average Yogthos verbal vomit.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

Wut? Was he talking about the previous Ukrainian government, sponsored by Russia™? I can't make sense of what he is saying, actually.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dude doesn't know about Euromaidan. I wish some of these children would go to russia.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago

They like the idea of Russia, not actual Russia.

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