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Spence will receive a cash severance of $1,875,000, per SEC filings. He will also get $7,500 per month and serve as a Sonos board advisor until June, and his unvested shares will vest.

If I was this bad at my job, I'd be shitcanned with no compensation. It's pretty cool how we reward failure at the highest levels.

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[–] [email protected] 181 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Golden parachute successfully deployed.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

$1.8M is pretty small as golden parachutes go. Was probably the smallest amount allowed under his employment contract which avoids a lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 week ago

To paraphrase OP's body text, if I did a shitty job I wouldn't be receiving $1.9M checks in the mail.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Absolutely this. I've never seen a CEO golden parachute anywhere near being under $2m before. To most large company CEOs $2m is pretty much nothing relative to their regular stock options.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 week ago (6 children)

i don’t know if any of you lot have experienced the sonos app firsthand, but let me tell you that it is worse than you could possibly imagine. it takes ages to open, has a million buttons, and pretty much all of them are useless. it has a play/pause bar on the bottom of the app that does not go away. if you want to change your speaker settings, that’s hidden away in a menu (within the app) called “system settings”. why would they call it that?

the app makes you type in the wifi password when pairing a new speaker, even if that speaker has the ethernet cable plugged in. the app also doesn’t support certain wifi passwords so i had to change my wifi password before connecting my speaker.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  • 2015: There’s an app for that! 😮📱
  • 2025: There’s an app for that… 😞🔫
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

The worst thing they've ever done is remove functionality from the desktop app and have it exclusively in their mobile app.

I love the idea of Sonos. Being able to have whole house audio without having to run a shit load of cabling would be a dream come true, except they do it so badly it is often a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, this is quite the list.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like I'm a programming dullard but they had to go out of their way to filter out allowable WiFi key characters? I don't see why they'd even bother...?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

maybe they were afraid of bobby tables

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

As a Sonos user, yea - I hate the new app. The biggest annoyance is how long it takes to start up, because I don't have an IR TV remote I need to use the app to change the volume (or stand up and use the volume control on the side).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have an easier time using my Home Assistant dashboard to control my Sonos devices rather than the native app. Takes forever to load in Sonos but with HA, it’s near instant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

same here. as soon as i got the speakers set up i closed the app, never to open it again. i would have done this anyway, since i like to have all my things in one place, but the app certainly didn’t do itself any favors here

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, I'm in the wrong business. Been making really bad decisions for free

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obviously. You could be the next Phil Harrison. Failed with Atari, got picked up by MS to lead Xbox. Failed with Xbox One, got picked up by Google to lead Stadia. Failed with Stadia and is currently keeping a low profile because he probably understood that failing any higher than Google is going to be a long shot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

He’ll probably show up at Ubisoft or EA, lol.

Or maybe even back at Microsoft to lead their handheld launch.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The Peter Principle in practice. A Quibi exec is taking over for him, I shit you not.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Quibi?! The streaming company whose business plan was so bad it lasted like 6 months. That sure inspires confidence.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Said another way, the company that broke production just hired the guy who ran the backend of Pandora Radio for 10 years and not once did he make headlines for an outage.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like they couldn't make things much worse apart from just making the app say, "Lol, fuck you," every time you tried to do anything.

It's so bad, I've mulled just trashing the one speaker I have that I didn't even pay for, just to move to something better.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just grabbed the old app from The Aurora store and told my speakers not to update their firmware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm using my kitchen S5 exclusively in aux mode with a spare phone which runs the Malopieds fork of Innertune. It's the perfect music kiosk / jukebox and I never have to touch their apps (unless I change up my network).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most of what I use the speakers for (other than surround on the TV) is automatically starting lullabies from Navidrome for my kids at bedtime.

The new app broke the hell out of that whole chain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Now I'm extra mad because their new app is messing with sleepy time for the bebis 😠

fuck those guys. Glad you gave a workaround in place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Y'all are the best. Will have to try these ideas later

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

no u

Hope it works out for you tho. Hit us up if you need a hand.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People like this clown really live in a reality of their own. Imagine being horrible at your job, just to be paid a fat lump of money

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If I got that payout, I'd be able to retire...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Give that amount of money to anyone with the most basic of simple financial management and they wouldn’t have to work a day in their entire life while living a very decent life. Almost $2M at 5% growth, below the total historical performance of the stock market, is $100,000 per year for doing nothing except sitting on money. Any amount of that which is reinvested compounds exponentially.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish I could be such a PoS where I join a company, propose a massive investment into something, see it's failure and firing a bunch of staff, then bounce with a nice severance package to join a new company to repeat that over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly the biggest issue is the rinse repeat part. Anyone can fuck up. But they just get to do it all over again because they have no shame.

Boards and executive suites are filled with people who repeatedly ruin companies and then just do it to the next one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

people who repeatedly ruin companies

You mean those bold leaders who have the rare ability to take risks* and make the tough decisions**?

  • Risking their “number go up” fun money, not their actual lifestyle, or health, or home, or food supply, etc. Or just risking other people’s assets much of the time.

** The decisions that will hurt people they don’t care about and won’t have to deal with, in order to hopefully make their “number go up” score improve.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

"Go big or go home!" The CEO says as they fire 70% of their staff and now have to take a vacation to recharge at their summer beach house. His major concern? His severance package is only $3 million when his last place gave him $12 million. But this next coke-fueled idea will absolutely get them back to the top!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Just as a way to soothe the outrage about this POS of an app: A fair share of the problem can be minimised by using Home Assistant and Music Assistant to control the Sonos devices. This way you very rarely need to actually use the app anymore.

Which is good because it's indeed shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Literally just started doing this last week. I did NOT expect it to work so much better than the name-brand app for such a "closed system" as Sonos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sonos is the apple of speakers: great hardware, but overpriced and a walled garden.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I haven't had any luck with Music Assistant and my Sonos speakers. :(

I can add and select the speakers, select a track, everything seems to work right up to the point of actually playing music. It just stays paused and never switches to playing, no errors either.

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[–] prettybunnys 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’ve had my Sonos sound bar controlled by HomeKit since the day I bought it and have never needed to fuck with their app.

I guess I got lucky?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are the speakers themselves good though?

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[–] YaksDC 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had 7 Sonos speakers. 2 months after they updated their app I sold them all and replaced them with the Denon 150s. I was such a Sonos booster and loved their products. Now they are a dead company to me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Sonos basically failed their way out of me ever buying their shit. I bought a Wiim pro and am still using my Samsung soundbar from a decade ago. No complaints.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am glad most of my devices couldn’t be upgraded to S2 anyway with the size of clusterfuck that turned out to be.

They freaking removed SMB/NFS playback. That’s like 90% of what I listen to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Haha, I'm also "lucky" to be stuck to S1.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Failing upward ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm so confused by some of the stuff in this thread. I still use my sonos stuff and never even noticed the update beyond seeing that the UI changed a little at some point. I know people had some issues but I never stopped being able to do what I wanted with my beam, sub and a couple of satellite speakers in other rooms.

I use streaming services for music when i'm not using it for the TV too. I usually use the streaming apps themselves rather than the sonos app to do anything. I have set some custom EQ stuff with their app, but that's understandable.

I don't think they are anything special and they are very expensive things for what they do, but my problems are very few and far between. Every now and then my beam doesn't get commands from HDMI via my TV... and the TV is always the issue (it's old.) That's really it. I'm not in love with the stuff and when it's time to replace it i'll look at what else is out there, but I don't hate it either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe many folks were using the other features that go beyond streaming... E g. Setting up alarms, streaming music from their locally hosted servers, etc. I believe all that went away with the new app. I never noticed any issues personally, since I just steam/cast.

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