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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've always found it super interesting that Disney made a kids' thing out of that particular book. Because that's a bleak fucking book full of nasty filthy disgusting terrible people doing nasty filthy disgusting terrible things. Someone went "you know the classic where a couple of city officials drool after a gypsy woman and violently rape her in a cathedral and then hang her in the street? And a grotesque monster rampages against them for it? Wouldn't the kids just love that one but as a musical and instead of hanging her they burn her at the stake?"

[–] ZombiFrancis 9 points 1 day ago

gypsy woman

Sixteen in the novel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Also, let's turn a womanizing thug into a fucking Disney prince, the kiddies will love it."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

More to the point, why hasn't Troma taken a stab at it yet?

[–] ArbitraryValue 122 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It would be very nice if being conventionally unattractive also made a person attracted to other conventionally unattractive people.

I wonder what hurts more: the unfulfilled asymmetric entitlement shown in the comic or intellectual honesty of the "I wouldn't be attracted to me, so I shouldn't expect most other people to be attracted to me either" sort. Probably the honesty, since many people pick experiencing the entitlement.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

I'm in camp #2, I think camp #1 would be worse, cuz you'd end up trying and failing and getting rejected. Can't be disappointed if you never have hope to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Overall I think the entitlement hurts more, especially over time, but it's a lot easier to blame external factors than it is to look inward and see where you can improve yourself.

There may be more initial hurt from being honest with yourself, but once you get past that initial hurt and begin working on yourself, you find things you love about yourself and don't need the external validation as much as you thought you did. Honesty it the first step on the journey of self-improvement and ultimately self-love. Once you love yourself it's easier for other people to see what's lovable about you.

Entitlement just makes you angry at other people and drives them away, leaving you alone with your anger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been in the honesty camp for the last decade, however I've come to accept that I'll never love myself. I still have my anger, but I focus it inward where it belongs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

As long as you aren't blaming others for that anger.

Also go easier on yourself, I'm willing to bet you don't deserve the amount of anger you direct at yourself. I realize that probably doesn't mean a whole lot coming from someone who doesn't know you or your situation, but it's something to consider

[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think this describes 99% of incels

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, that rings a bell.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

One might say it's their defining trait

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can’t have what I want, don’t want what I can have.

The world is truly against me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

"I would never join a club that would allow someone like me as a member."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, bit of a nit pick here but just cause she's also not conventionally pretty doesn't mean he can "have her".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's implied that she likes him, at least more than the other ladies

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Saying something encouraging to somebody is not the same as saying "I'm interested in you".

This is a distinction most incels don't really get.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

At least he doesn't say it out loud.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bruh, don't do my boi Quasimodo like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I think that the internet is the cause of this, and globalization. Porn addiction etc. All of those things are brand spanking new relative to our evolutionary timeline