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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

To me "review bomb" implies giving a rating based on external or irrelevant factors. Giving a game a bad review because it doesn't run correctly on your computer is perfectly valid and helpful to other users.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It ran fine since 2017 and got blindsided by MS. Anyone blaming Ubisoft is biased af, or has information not included in this article.

[–] RvTV95XBeo 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, the billion dollar game developer doesn't have the resources to test preview editions of the only PC OS their game is designed for. They're just a small startup of ~20k employees. How are they supposed to allocated anyone to patching a game from their most popular franchise?

You're right, it's the consumers fault for being biased.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Brb gonna test those old 1995 games and if they don't run on Windows 11 I'll review bomb Eidos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

If they're selling the game somewhere right now (like GOG) and it doesn't run on your computer then it's perfectly acceptable to give it a review rating of "Not Recommended"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The game is an eight years old single player game. I doubt they had many people working on it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, people should leave positive reviews for games that no longer work?

Like I get what your saying. It's not Ubisoft's fault.

But if they're not going to fix their old game, than it should be reviewed negatively so people don't spend money on a game that no longer works.

If they don't want that, than delist it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't want to discredit the reviews, just give more context to the situation. I don't think that there is any AAA dev that has 8 year old games at such a high priority level that they would fix any "posthumous" issues immediately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Sure

But when people are replying to

https://lemm.ee/comment/17210238

Saying that anyone not calling out Microsoft is biased, is a bad take. And I'm not sure what your point of more context is needed?

A broken game gets negative reviews. I'm not sure what's biased about this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They do have the resources, they also have the expectation they won't need to waste them on dumb shit MS breaks.

Ubisoft IS the consumer of MS products. But I guess your sympathies for consumers is only skin deep.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Companies aren't people. So yes, my limit is "skin deep".

(Not the person you replied to).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a profound observation. Paperwork isn't flesh. Amazing. What's your point?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That yes, it doesn't bother me that Ubisoft is a consumer of Microsoft.

If Ubisoft doesn't update their product, they should be reviews negatively. If they don't like it they should de list it so people don't pay money for a broken product.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Delist the game that's been out since 2017 and already bought by 10 million people! Genius! The update point has already been clowned on by plenty of others in the thread, so I won't relitigate that. But wow dude, delisting is so smart. Like, if 10 million people with the game can't access what they paid for that's way better for consumers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's almost like you can delist it in such a way you prevent people from paying money for a broken game with no intention of updating it again, and still leave it for people who currently have copies.

Wow that was such a garbage take.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea it's pretty garbage. No mention of MS having culpability for breaking it. Just blame the victim and sweep the game under the rug.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So what, you think they shouldn't be reviewed bad for a broken game?

No, it's broken and shouldn't be for sale if they're not going to fix it.

Guess what, as a mobile dev, my job is to fix the broken shit on multiple OSs as well. It's the territory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think MS should fix it, that's my only position. I don't care what Ubisoft does because they didn't break it. Their reputation can only improve from this set of facts. Doing nothing is a neutral act, and developing a patch is a positive.

Idc about your buggy checklist app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Ubisoft isn't the victim here, consumers buying broken games are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It is due to an external factor - Microsoft

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Star Wars Outlaws in particular received a temporary fix for crashing issues back in November. While Microsoft and Ubisoft have been working on a fix, issues with games like Assassin's Creed Origins still remain.

If a fix exists for other games and not this one and you've been negatively affected, that's a 100% acceptable reason to give a "Not Recommend" review.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then maybe you should revise your comment to say external factors are valid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not an external factor. It's the absence of a patch in the game.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like you don’t know what an external factor is

The game was in a working state, an update by an external company for an external application (the OS) caused the issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What state is the game currently in for these users? Not working. Why would they recommend it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then maybe you should revise your comment to say external factors are valid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's literally not external.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh so they pushed the Windows update that broke it

Sorry, my mistake

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is the game supposed to work on Windows? Does it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The version of Windows it was released on, it would be silly to think it includes future versions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not going to discuss this any more. This is a perfectly acceptable review of the game. Seeing mixed or negative scores for recent reviews is important for potential buyers. Ubisoft has made patches for other games affected by this but not this one. This is not review bombing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t call it review bombing either nor would I call it an illegitimate review

I would say that your definition of review bombing is incorrect as we can both agree the above is legitimate and caused by an external factor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you agree this isn't review bombing, what the fuck are you even arguing about??? 🙄 It's not external. It's the game crashing. External would be something like "I don't like this company's CEO so I'm giving it a bad review."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s external, the issue was not created by a game update, an OS update caused it

Still not a review bomb

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

It ain't review bombing if the game's not working properly. That's just called an accurate review. Of course the gaming journalism industry has to make sure all of its headlines are anti-consumers possible though.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Shit Ubisoft game gets shit reviews, news at 11

[–] Yerbouti -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ubisoft = Bad, Steam = Good.
Upvote to the left.

Seriously gamers, don't buy Ubisoft's games and stop crying.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't understand. These reviews seem accurate to people who have yet to buy the game, so the score properly reflecting the current state of the game warning potential buyers to not buy it.

Reviews would be useless if they didn't change and people buying the game because reviews reflecting game is fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

This is the exact reason why Steam had a separate "recent reviews" statistic. A well-reviewed game with negative recent reviews is a good indicator that something broke (three exact reason should be spelled out in the reviews).

The only issue is that such reviews are not "self-cleaning" once the issue gets fixed, and not every negative reviewer will remove or correct their review manually.

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