I know when I'm planning a hostile takeover of a world government I always piss off the military first thing. even better if you can do it by taking away their paychecks for Christmas.
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Wait, did you think they wouldn't blame the Dems?
Republicans are so good at the economy and foreign policy guys. The best.
If you voted for xelon, you deserve this. And the people around you who didn't vote for him get to shove it in your face and blame you for their pain.
It's a funny thought that the secret service is supposed to give their life to protect the president and the president elect. And now they are supposed to do so without pay.
That's a bold move cotton.
President Musk does not give a fuck.
I mean did the Republicans give a fuck any of the other times they lead a government shutdown?
They've been using it as a cudgel for years. Don't want to pass our objectively ridiculous budget proposal? Fuck you, shut it all down. They plan this in advance. As long as nobody budges an inch on anything they can reliably use federal workers as hostages in their "negotiations".
From what the right Wings news sources are saying, "It's the Dens fault the majority/ruling party can not get thier shit together"
Standard response. It'll probably work.
Worked for McConnell. Fuck up everything, blame the president and/or democrats
No worries. Just don't vote for the draft dodging felon next time. If there is a next time.
Hopefully it helps the troops make the right call when the orange VP and President Musk declare marshall law.
Why are they calling Marshal that?
Lol, I fixed the auto capitalization but didn't notice the spelling change.
Orange Musk probably hope that only loyalists will stay enlisted and everyone else quits.
Because, as we saw in Iraq, having large amounts of competent military personnel no longer in the military because of politics walking among the general public leads to good long term outcomes.
Are you seriously suggesting we try learning from the past?!?
A WITCH! BURN THEM!
Sounds like financial terrorism
Just deploy them. Then they won't need their pay. I'm sure the US can find something for them to do.
They voted for it
inaction is a choice.
Pretty sure they’ve always gotten paid after the fact. As long as everyone has plenty of savings to fall back on and this doesn’t happen over any major gift giving holidays ….. clearly one of those disconnected from reality situations, where the people making this decision have the means for that to not be serious, even if they let themselves be affected
Lmao Elon is just dangling their paycheck infront of them like a carrot on a stick
Oh god I hope so. Recruitment is already falling fast in the US. No one wants to be soldiers. Which good, USA needs to stop being a warmongering nation. Less soldiers equals less wars, it's a simple numbers game. If you ALSO take away the paychecks of the few stupid enough to be loyal to this violent nation, well that's it, we're done.
*Edit: A literal starve the beast.
Unfortunately a smaller volunteer army does not mean less war, it just increases the odds of conscription if we do get into a conflict.
The numbers stopped adding up years ago. There are 1.5 military contractors (largely not US citizens) for every 1 enlisted soldier in the US military. We just pay people to fight our wars. Otherwise we would have to draft and people would get upset about our endless wars again.
You dont need a ton of people if you bomb everyone with autonomous drones, which is exactly what they are doing.
True, but you do need people to man the nearly 800 military bases the US has around the globe and I’m sure pretty much everyone except the neoconservatives would like to see many of those shut down or transferred to be run purely by their host government
We can't fight wars with only drones any more than we could fight them with only airpower. At some point, there are always boots on the ground.
Israel is finding this out in real time.
Less soldiers equals less wars, it's a simple numbers game.
You underestimate Republican willingness to fight wars with low/no oversight civilian contractors.
Drones instead of boots.
It’s ok, they will pump AFN full of bullshit lies indicating Democrats somehow did this instead of Republicans.
Nothing ever happens.
Oh damn shucks oh no