this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.


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Honestly, I'm not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c'mon) is not okay.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Wasn't the entire point of moving to the Fediverse that we can easily switch instances if one goes bad?

Why are people still on .world lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Because it's no big loss if we end up getting banned, so as another commenter said. Laziness

And unless mods are being massive weirdos by checking how we're behaving in the comment sections of other instance's communities, then it's even less likely we'll be banned anyway.

So for now, I do nothing.

And express my total non-sadness at this CEO's, and probably many other CEO's deaths.

I'm not for the death penalty, but they sure as hell deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The problem is communities congregate where they are the largest. You can move yourself off of lemmy.world, but you can't move your community off of lemmy.world. You could make communities less dependent on the host they are on or any given moderator group, but Lemmy's design is not that. So you can sever yourself off of it, and now you are left the option of joining far smaller and less active alternative communities.

I don't believe it would be that hard to make a lemmy style federation where if your host or their moderator groups ban you, other hosts could still see you. That used to be the case with kbin, people could comment in communities based on instances that had banned them, even if those comments would only be seen in kbin. It was easily exploitable, because it bypassed moderation controls for the home instance and would really have required moderation group for that instance, but it could be done.

Imagine having links to communities like, https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected] ,but being capable of specifying a different moderator group / messaging handler dispatcher (or whatever the component in charge within an instance of determining which comments to inform users of is called) from another instance like, https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected]:lemm.ee , that would just default to the official if there wasn't any instance local group in charge. But that would cause so much drama because these positions attract control freaks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Those are completely different communities, I'm talking about viewing and participating in the same community with different moderators/instances in charge. The examples you show are different communities, where it just so happens that one redirects to another because a moderation group decided to. It's not what I'm suggesting, taking the same comment pool and passing it off through the filter of a new instance/moderator group to moderate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This solution still allows to address the LW centralization with the tools we have today.

Your solution requires rework of the Lemmy software that is probably not going to happen any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Except that it really wouldn't be a solution for OP's problem. It only works when the problem also isn't leading the moderation team.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In that case, organizing on [email protected] allows to replace a community lead by power tripping mods.

Last example: [email protected] being replaced by [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure lemmy.world would not consider the way that moderator is acting "power-tripping", considering their stances.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Well OP did switch, indicated by the switched instance of their new account

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Been thinking about this for about a week now. How does one go about switching instances?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Why are people still on .world lmao

Few reasons:

  1. I joined when it was one of the smaller instances

  2. Laziness

  3. Currently looking to move

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

The fediverse will be at its greatest when communities can seamlessly switch instances. As seen from the minimal Reddit user migration, users won't switch as much as necessary to affect real change.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The large user base, and a couple of communities who don't care about current events. But it's not an admin thing anyway so - ? Does it really matter what instance it's on?

I dont' know what community that was in, but if it was one of the usual suspects, I'd say move to a different community. Not sure what .world has to do with it since it wasn't an admin thing, just some mod being mod. !Politics, I assume?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

mods on politcs and news are neo lib acolytes, they mode for the ruling class while pretending to be one of us lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's a dumb argument because unless you're willing to lie to moderators with different usernames to trick them into not knowing who you are (ban evasion) being banned on one shitty instance locks you out of it and any communities it has. Lemmy.world has many of the bigger ones, lemmy.ml too.
Moving on isn't as easy as people make it seem. This is one of those Fediverse lies that people regurgitate ad-nauseam.

The truth is that bigger instances, or instances holding bigger communities hold a larger slice of the pie, and unless you forcefully remove people from the instances, or remove the instances from the people, they cannot be replaced. You can't start your own instance and communities to replace the big ones at the top. Your new one will occupy less of the pie.

Looking at the communities tab can give you an idea of which ones they are

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The instances which hold these positions hold control, and they can't be as easily replaced or bypassed. So "Just move to another server" doesn't work unless you're encouraging ban evasion, which most people are not. They can make a real impact on your experience in the Fediverse, and trying to deny that fact is disingenuous and misinformation, because they absolutely do hold control here. They are the ones who's actions make a difference, especially because they cannot be replaced easily.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Fuck lemmy.world

We need to move communities off LW.

Lemmy is way too dominated by those bootlicking batards

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Small list from @[email protected]

discussion: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

technology: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

politics: [email protected] (UK), [email protected] (USA), [email protected] (Canada), [email protected] (Oz), [email protected] (allegedly world, in practice USA)

news: [email protected] , [email protected]

comic strips: I couldn't find any general comm, but there's [email protected] and [email protected]

microblog memes: [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected]

political memes: [email protected] , [email protected]

memes: [email protected], [email protected]

ask lemmy: [email protected]

movies and animattion: [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] .

Specifically for Japanese anime there's ani.social (the whole instance).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I wouldn't recommend Beehaw for people since they may not be accessible on the instances people might choose and they tend to be a bit more heavy handed with their approach.
They've also stated they don't have much long term commitment to being part of the Fediverse or being on Lemmy so I wouldn't put much faith in them as a good replacement to lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Ani.social mentioned!

Anyway, isn't beehaw way worse than world? Like, to the point they were at one point trying to leave lemmy so they could better isolate their community? As far as politics goes in Lemmy world is in control, sadly, since it's the worst part of world in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Beehaw is isolationist = picky on who it federates with, but it's transparent on that. And the main reason why its admins want another software is the sorry state of the Lemmy mod tools.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It improved quite a lot since 0.18.3.

I always feel like Beehaw are in a weird spot. Either keep using Lemmy to keep up with the new features for both the mods and the users, or switch to Mbin or Piefed, they are viable options.

This in between is just strange.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

.world can suck the shit from my colon

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

desalines of ml is the ultimate power tripping bastard

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At least they are not modding the shit out of working class sentiment with bullshit excuses.

.world is literally whoring for the ruling class... I wonder how much they earn on this grift.

[–] Sixtyforce 6 points 4 days ago

They do it for free, all the worse.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If one protects CEOs aren't they the one advocating violence against the common people?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

Yes, advocating for the killing of children in the most literal sense

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

You literally did what you were banned for and then pulled a "in Minecraft" with this post.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think World just need to accept that they're pissing into the wind at this point, I've never seen a platform so united on something.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Try to praise Spez anywhere on Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

That would be viewed as obvious rage bait on most of the platform.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

People who complain about moderation on this platform tend to be really obnoxious.

Case in point OP screenshotting a Royal β€˜we’ advocating murdering people in a job description with no other criteria and a couple generic emojis to boot.

Relative to the volume of content and platform tools available please just communicate responsibly. There is an objective standard for advocating for future violence and OPs comment clearly meets that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

You're a dumb ass who needs to learn plausible deniability.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

To be fair, the post is a news report covering the CEO's public mass death threat, not an endorsement of it.

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