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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

To all the people in this thread claiming he needed to pardon him or trump would do something, without naming what that something is or using hyperbole, trump doesn't care about hunter. The hunter case was about

  1. Dragging the Biden name through the dirt and making them seem like a crime family. They don't need to do this anymore because Biden hasn't been a threat to trump since that last debate. Its not like he's afraid to run against him in 2028

  2. To call out them dems for there hypocrisy and try and make some equivalence with trumps convictions. This pardon plays perfectly into that narrative and now gives trump an excuse to pardon himself and all his accomplices.

Hunter is of no use to the trump administration now, don't try to sell this as anything but a powerful father bailing out his failure of a son.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

NOW gives him an excuse? Did you not hear of the 238 pardons Trump gave last time? He needed this to happen as an excuse to do that again this time around?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

With criminal Trump, having as he does zero respect for laws and legal norms, taking over the DOJ, and literally saying he is going to incarcerate his political enemies, it would be a national security risk for the former president's family to be in federal custody or facing serious federal charges.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

I agree. Since Biden believes that Trump is a fascist, and he didn't do this for purely selfish reasons, I expect him to also issue a blanket pardon for all undocumented immigrants as he is granted the power two do under Article II, Section 2 of the US Constitution. Otherwise, I'll have choice but to believe that he is a corruot individual who is actually just saving his son from legal consequences of matters already resolved in court.

[–] [email protected] 176 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Who gives a shit? Republicans made a felon president. Nothing fucking matters anymore.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

A felon that had to be given immunity by the supreme court he picked himself in order to stay out of prison long enough for the richest man in the world to get him elected.

You can't make this shit up

[–] [email protected] 35 points 15 hours ago

Reminds me of this

[–] [email protected] 58 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

It's not that people are mad he's doing it, we're mad he's not doing more meaningful thing that will help people not named Biden or help a foreign country commit a genocide.

What gets me tho is his supporters applauding this.

Even when he spent months promising not to do this because of the sanctity of justice system...

I know I could tell he was lying. But his supporters swore up and down Biden wouldn't lie, and now they're supporting it.

Do you honestly not understand why 1/3 of the country treats both parties as out of touch liars who don't care for 99.99% of Americans?

Like, if "nothing matters" why isn't Biden doing more? Why isn't he even appointing all the empty judges seats before Trump can?

Why is the only things he can do on his way out the door arming a genocidal far right religious state for their genocide and pardoning his own son?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Even when he spent months promising not to do this because of the sanctity of justice system…

He probably wasn't lying. Hunter was convicted for purely political reasons. The crimes he was convicted of are rarely enforced and almost never result in jail time against first offenders. The President assumed that his son would be treated fairly like any other first time offender. He believed in the sanctity of the justice system but has now been forced to revise that opinion because it's perfectly clear that he was wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

the crimes he was convicted of are rarely enforced and almost never resulted in jail time against first offenders

This is the same line trump supporters use when defending his convictions, and it probably is true for both. If your in politics you and your family are, and should be, under more legal scrutiny then an average person. That's the price of power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Your family should not be under more scrutiny than anybody else and they should not be a target of your political enemies.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Trump is about to pardon dozens/hundreds of treasonous terrorists (Jan 6th).

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

So this is his big Grand exit? He could do so much on the way out the door for the country but instead the senile old fuck only cares about his damn kid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

This is one trivial act.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 20 hours ago (16 children)

Honestly? With the absolute thought crime aspect and the way the plea deal was handled, I don't blame him one bit. There's no public interest in locking up Hunter Biden.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

There's no public interest in locking a lot of people up, yet they still do.

Rules should be applied equally, regardless of who you or your parents are.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

There’s no public interest in locking up Hunter Biden.

Nonsense. Theres a massive public interest in a privileged member of the political elite being held to the same legal standards and to the same due process as you and me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That's not the same legal standards. Tax charges that the IRS bends over backwards not to use and gun charges that are literally thought crime and also very rarely used.

This was the witch hunt the GOP cries wolf about. The original thing they were looking for was Ukrainian money deals.

For anyone else the IRS would have had a payment plan and the gun charges would have been a plea deal. But we go from politically motivated investigation to politically motivated judge rejecting the plea deal

What about this is the same due process we would have?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (10 children)

Donald Trump has a hitlist. Hunter is on that list. I don't think he deserves the pardon, but he needs it. Republicans will crucify him given the chance. I don't really want to see Republicans holding his head up on a pike for all to see, as much as they'd love that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I am pretty sure that Trump would have had that man killed in prison. In my books his dad did the right thing, fuck the optics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I just made a post commenting that it's a national security risk to have a former president's family member incarcerated or under prosecution by the DoJ as Trump is planning to run it. He flat out said he's planning to use the DoJ to incarcerate political rivals.

It's like

"Hey, Joe, we have your son. You need to tell me / support me / help me with [undermining institutions of democracy and our allies], or else."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Looked through to find one of these takes near the top.

That is a ridiculous idea.

A doddering, old, ex-president that is known to be forgetful is somehow going to help Trump, the current sitting president?

One step further: All the things above, but everyone Joe could talk to knows that his son is a political prisoner? Maybe we can add a footnote to this thought, too that questions why someone who got ran out of politics by his own party would care to meddle in the affairs of democratic institutions or those of our allies. (With the understanding that certain actions and certain conversations are violations of the Hatch act, which, under a vindictive DOJ, would see Joe in prison.)

In this absolute farce where he’s emerging from his quiet sundown to try to engage with people about politics, does anyone see Joe as anything but a prisoner himself?
Who would trust any words from him about anything other than Amtrak or ice cream?
You’d have to be a complete fucking moron to think that scenario could play out. That’s the sort of dumb shit that happens on TV, and may be something that Trump tries, but is not something competent humans fall for.

Today’s word of the day is: Specious.

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