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[–] [email protected] 101 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, if there was any doubt there is one law for the rich & well connected, and an entirely different law for the 'plebes', this put that deep in the ground...

Someone should go rip that blindfold off of any 'Blind Justice' statues, it is just gaslighting at this point.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is Smith seeing his hands tied because Trump ran out the clock and then enough assholes put him back in office where the Supreme Court and DOJ policy blocks him from being prosecuted for [at least] the next 4 years. It also states that come January 2029 he can refile charges on a then dementia ravaged 82 year old man.

[–] Scubus 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao, thinking its still going to be legal to investigate trump in 4 years

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Remember when rational people in 2020 said Biden was too old and did t have it in him to fight fascism?

And the DNC said the president doesn't matter (but still had to be Biden) it was about the people they appoint.

Well, Bidens picks were Smith and Garland, and a bunch of other people who couldn't get shit accomplished.

Everyone needs to remember how Biden worked out, because in four years the DNC will want to run someone just like him again. And if they do we're fucked

[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

An election in four years … I like your optimism and I hope you are right.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, you'll likely live long for the DNC to say the same thing against the next 5 Republicans, and maybe even a Dem candidate will get a death bed endorsement from Trump while Eric Trump goes on a rally your with the Dem candidate talking about how much the Republicans have lost their way since 2016...

Like, after Biden stepped down I told myself I'd vote D matter who like I always have. Because Biden had no shot in hell, and the DNC actually listened and I wanted to communicate that's all we've been begging for.

But I remember GW, I remember Dick Cheney was the real problem and Lil Bush was just a distraction.

But Kamala still trotted Liz Cheney around, acted like her dad isn't the biggest US war criminal in modern history, and tried to act like Trump was solitarily the one responsible. I still voted for her. But it ended up being harder than voting Hillary.

trump can drop dead as I'm typing this and not a damn thing will change.

I've lived through this series of events before. The vast majority of Americans have.

It's going to suck and we're going to lose ground, but there isn't a cat wrangler alive that can get republicans to agree and work with themselves.

They'll lose the House/Senate in two years. Maybe one, maybe both. But they won't get anything accomplished and they do t have anyone else to blame to motivate their voters in midterms.

They're going to have to eat that they got trump, the House, and Senate, and sure as shit aren't going to fix what they told voters they'd fix.

Stop saying the fight is over because neo liberals didn't get everything they wanted.

Start working on fighting our own party next primary so we have a chance of getting what America needs. If another neoliberal gets into the general, hold your nose and hope enough other people do too to mitigate damage.

Regardless of anything that happens, giving up is never going to work.

Fight every fight like it's the last, and no matter what happens treat the next one the same. This is what fighting fascism actually looks like, not voting once every four years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

User name checks out. Thanks for giving a fuck and not posting the same endless whining and bad takes I've seen so much of.

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[–] timbuck2themoon 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Bullshit. The DNC said nothing. Biden wiped the floor with every other candidate in that primary fair and square. Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn't be assed to come out.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn’t be assed to come out.

Absolutely this.

Old-ass biden wins primaries because the only people who could be bothered to vote in ANY election that isn't just the general election, are other old people. They vote for the people most like them, fellow old people...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

You can't lay that on Smith. He accomplished a lot. But, no surprise, a Trump judge derailed it.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

. “This outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant.”

We know, but we also know that Trump and his sycophants will use the argument that Trump "won" and it was baseless, political persecution, etc.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The not prosecuting a sitting president is a shitty policy written to avoid baseless lawsuits and applied to help fascists rise to power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Its a practical issue. Sure, you can can throw the president in jail. But they are still president. They can totally call the military to break them out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The military and the secret service gave oaths the the constitution, not DOJ policy. In a functioning democracy they would force the president to surrender and to show up to court.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

He can pardon himself.

Either that or JD Vance as Acting President can pardon him.

[–] tabarnaski 10 points 4 weeks ago

The way I see this, they are stopping the proceedings so Trump's AG won't be able to end them officially, so they might be able to resume in four years.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Key detail: they're not dropping it because they're giving up, the judge dismissed it without prejudice, which means that in 4 years they can pick the case back up. Under a Trump DoJ the case would likely have ended with prejudice, closing it permanently.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Even more motivation for Trump to abolish term limits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

He can't himself since it's spelled out in the constitution in the 22nd amendment.

So tl;dr it would need 3/4 of the states to repeal that. More detail than that, but that's what it boils down to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I really hope that's the case. But if there's one thing I've learnt, it's that Trump can seemingly do whatever the fuck he wants.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

At least it's a dismissal without prejudice which leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office and as long as the statute of limitation hasn't run out.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago

leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office

Assuming his lard-ass lives that long.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

You know how the courts love putting rich old white dudes behind bars, right?

Assuming of course we don’t end up with a Republican dictatorship after this presidency, then it’s all meaningless anyway.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A glimmer of hope, but at least, of the extremely limited options, this one leaves a shred of hope behind.

Still fucking awful and a complete condemnation of the justice system in the US, but POC in the States have known that for years, now it's just whitey getting shown how fucking biased it is to privilege and wealth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

A lot of us whiteys already knew

[–] neidu3 12 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I can't say I'm feeling overly optimistic about anything worthwhile happening with this case after 9 years, when they failed to move forward in nearly 5

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Until Trump’s DOJ decides to re-dismiss with prejudice.

[–] Peruvian_Skies 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That can only be done if the case is presented again. You can't dismiss something that doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Get ready to find out that all laws are just made up and no one gives a shit if the other people with power let him do whatever he wants

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

Who's going to revive a 10 year old political case against an 83 year old that's retiring from politics? In the US?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Lol he's dead by then. Are we puting a dead person on trial?

[–] iAmTheTot 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Who is going to stop Trump from pardoning himself?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

He cannot pardon himself on a dismissed case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

He could. The president can pardon any federal crimes that's already committed except in cases of impeachment. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon even tho he was never charged with crimes. Now the constitution never explicitely said they can pardom themselves, but maybe the supreme court would let him.

[–] iAmTheTot 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Again, who is going to stop him? The presidential pardon is wide reaching, and no one has ever tried to pardon themselves before so there's no legal precedent. You think this supreme court is gonna stop him?

Also, he absolutely can pardon for something that was dismissed. Nixon got pardoned for something he was never even charged with.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Legal justice has become a pipedream. The only options with any real chance of happening are vigilante justice or no justice.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Vigilante Justice isn't really justice tho.

He's just gonna get famous for getting "Assassinated".

He needs to rot in prison and die there so his name is tainted forever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

Agreed, but I don't see that happening in the absence of a legal justice system.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Do you have realistic ideas on how to make that happen?

[–] mindbleach 3 points 4 weeks ago

Oh no, not fame! How terrible!

He needs to stop being a threat to American democracy. He needs to not be in power. We've exhausted nearly all of the well-you-oughta solutions. Just solve the problem.

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[–] Grandwolf319 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, we all saw this coming.

It still feels weird that you can’t jail someone in 4 years even if you prove they are guilty.

Americans should be rioting in the streets, let him serve from jail.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I want this to be literally the only word on Merrick Garlands Wikipedia page.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

Its not Jack Smith's fault, that's on the American voters. Well that and Merrick Garland

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

I honestly can't be mad. America voted. If anyone has the audacity to be upset when America falls to lawlessness and didn't vote to punish trump i cannot be concerned.

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