Oh man I would love to live in a town called Effing. If only it wasn't in South Carolina.
this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2024
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Yeah that might be the best of your lifetime as it might be drastically shortened
Shame they felt the need to censor the name of the petting zoo.
Well they didn't want people getting the wrong idea.
I grew up on the East Coast of the United States. MD and FL to be specific. Going to the beach was a regular thing in our household, whether it was the Chesapeake Bay or the Atlantic Ocean somewhere in West Palm Beach. My grandad has a house on the actual bay. Grew up spending every family gathering there. The adults would visit/catch up, and us kids would be in the water. I was NEVER scared of the water.
Then, as a young adult, Im sitting at an inprocessing for a base in Okinawa, Japan, and the briefer is going over local hazards in the region.
I had never heard of the Blue Ringed Octopus before.
And from that moment on, I became terrified of things in the ocean.
My husband always laughs about that story because its rare that they even make it into the waters around Oki, but that genuinely really was the moment that my brain was like "Omg, you have to worry about more than sharks in the ocean."
The ocean is beyond beautiful. Spent some time on the shores of NC and VA...
Started studying marine biology due to the oceans vast amount of mystery...Now it's "The ocean is beyond beautiful and just as deadly."
The ocean is indeed beyond beautiful. I'm not a marine biologist, but I went to Jamaica for my honeymoon and truly appreciated it there. A lot of my time was spent just ... Admiring the water.
I remember a Jamaican local commenting that she'd seen the ocean around the USA in movies and wouldn't swim in the ocean around the country based on that.
Also, I got punched in the face by a fish while I was down there.
Beautiful, though.
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For a while, I lived in Havre de Grace, MD. In that timeframe, I experienced several fourths of July. One of those times, for some reason, my then-girlfriend and I got in a mood to watch horror movies.
We opened Netflix (then our only streaming service) and looked in the horror category, eventually settling on The Bay. We'd never heard of that movie before and selected it pretty much at random.
Turns out that movie is implicitly set in HdG and explicitly on the fourth of July. Kinda freaked us out for a bit.
After that, we looked up movies set in HdG and that's how I found From Within, a mediocre movie featuring Bruce Willis' daughter; and also how I found out that House of Cards filmed Kevin Spacey's home town there.
The bite actually doesn't kill you, it just shuts down your nervous system so you can't breath.
People if given cpr immediately (kind of need someone to know it's what bit you) till it wears off / get on a ventilator will live.
I remember reading about someone who survived. They got but, and a team started doing cpr. The only issue was his eyes were open the entire time on a hot sunny day. So he was blind after the damage the hot sun did.
wears off
I think it is in the duration of hours, rather than minutes before wearing off.
So yes, a team in rotation is required for CPR, or one triathalon participant.
The bite actually doesn't kill you, it just shuts down your nervous system so you can't breath.
I feel that's like saying "getting mauled by a bear doesn't kill you, it just causes major lacerations so all your blood leaks out". Technically sure, but it seems like a bit of a pedantic distinction...
You’re not totally wrong but some things are not so easily treated as with rescue breathing. This is the same problem with any paralytic agent (e.g. botulism) is that the mechanism of death is suffocation since you can’t breathe. But from a rescue standpoint its really easy to breathe for someone whereas its not easy to stop multiple lacerations leading to exanguination and I think that is the point they were making is that this could be a survivable event if a rescuer is nearby.
Reminds me of people who insisted COVID didn't kill anyone because it was the symptoms that actually killed people
I was thinking "it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end."
It's not the sudden stop at the end that kills you. It's the different times at which parts of you stop.
Getting bit by a venomous snake in Australia and you're blood starts to disassemble itself. The only counter is antivenom or die. Your blood breaking down is what kills you. And there is no way to separate the bite from that.
Being able to counter the venom in such a simple way is what makes it different. You can logically break it down into steps that are separable.
Yeap, but that's because the venom is a hemotoxin rather than a neurotoxin.
Correct.
For the hemotoxin, you aren't going to "just wait for the effects to wear off." The toxin will kill you.
For the neurotoxin, you can just wait out the effects by countering the symptoms. Can't breathe? Respirator can save your life.
The hemotoxin itself is doing terrible damage, but the neurotoxin itself doesn't do any "damage" other than disabling systems.
Yeah that's mostly true... But it's not like a hangover... I had a friend bitten by a snake out in the Mojave once and I'm sure she would have strong opinions about how strenuous the recovery was from it. Neurotoxins, especially potent ones, can be disruptive enough to create long term disabilities. If you are someone who performs a lot of skilled fine motor movements as part of your job or as part of a hobby or something it could be a significant amount of time for you to fully recover from a neurotoxin.
Cytotoxins are interesting as well, though generally not considered deadly they can really mess up your quality of life and be extremely debilitating, even disfiguring.
Generally just a good idea to stay away from anything venomous.
Breathing - famous for being optional for those that would like to live.
Yes, there have only been around 3 people killed by them (largely because they're shy, aquatic, and somewhat uncommon), and intervention can be made to stop them from killing you, but they're one of the most toxic animals on the planet, and are unquestionably deadly.
I'm shy, aquatic and uncommon
Blind as permanently blind?
Correct, nothing can move, not your lungs, not your eye lids, nothing. So he went very blind from staring at the sun for 30mins straight while people did cpr until ambulance arrived
Yep.
They couldn't close their eyelids.
Better blind than dead.
Is it though?
Too bad no one had a shirt or something they could've covered their eyes with...
Hindsight is 20:20. It may seem obvious when you’re sitting here reading about it, but if my buddy was suddenly paralyzed I’d probably be too preoccupied with keeping his blood moving and oxygenated to have the extra processing power to think about whether his eyes needed to be closed.
Hindsight is 20:20
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Petting a blue ring octopus could definitely be a once in a lifetime event!
Well they were planning on Effing it, so maybe they were wearing "protection".
I love the Effing petting zoo!
Good god Im dead just watching this
Blue-ringed octopuses are among the world’s most venomous marine animals, carrying enough venom to kill 26 adult humans within minutes.
I didn't read 'Effing SC'. I was confused as to why they're cursing the petting zoo.
Because they brought in blue ringed octopi for casual petting
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Has the "swim with the box jellies" experience reopened since the accident... and the other accident.. and those 3 accidents that happened before that?
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