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[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Identity politics, and the concern silos that come with them, have failed. It's my personal opinion that they were pushed as a means to divide us against each other over things that don't threaten the profits of the capitalist class.

Fight for human rights.

Yes, human rights includes LGBT+ rights.

Yes, human rights includes women's rights.

Human rights at work as well. Human rights to housing and Healthcare. No half measures, no negotiations.

We tried to negotiate with the 1% in the early 20th century. Much like negotiating peace with Putin, it was just a temporary cease fire while the 1% consolidated their power and let their propaganda networks soak the human mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Class warfare

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I would put literacy right in front because apparently there's a disturbing amount of people who don't know what words mean almost.

To understand anything, you need a sense of literacy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

21% of American adults are illiterate (54% read below a 6th grade level)

17% of Canadian adults are illiterate.

I keep coming back to these points as it's important context when understanding the news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Because there are still a lot of old folks around from when education was… not so well enforced

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's... horrifying. I had no idea it was that high. I have to wonder how anyone can be illiterate, after watching my kids learn to read, and how little effort it took (on my part I mean, they were putting effort into it, because they wanted to)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I should point out that a portion of the stat comes from immigrants who are fully literate in their native language.

National literacy as a topic forms an interesting picture that I don't fully understand.

[–] vaultdweller013 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah the data is kinda fucky cause of that, this has always been a factor too one of my ancestors spoke decent English but could only read and write in German he was considered technically illiterate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It looks to me like it's ordered from more progressive to more fundamental, so literacy should be the last one, really. Trans rights is the newest major one, so it's the first to fall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

How is this a meme?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need to regroup. Anyone who cares for the above needs to join the same movement. Put your personal feelings aside and stand together, it's the only chance we've got to stop everything from unraveling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

We need our grassroots organizations to collaborate more and we need people to move towards those organizations. That's how I see it anyways. It's not going to be easy, a lot of these organizations are slow moving due to their financial burdens and lack of general support, but there's more urgency now than ever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i don't understand the secondary text on those past rights. What are they supposed to represent? I can't even read any past Free Love

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago
  1. Trans rights
  2. Gay rights, Freedom of expression
  3. Women's rights, Free love
  4. Free speech, Democracy
  5. Freedom of religion, Modernity
  6. Literacy
[–] [email protected] 141 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This implies it's falling on its own.

There should be a mass of red hats trying to push it over.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

and at least two blue hats

literally sick to my stomach.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No matter who lost in the '24 election, the rich won.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

60th election in a row. What a shocker. Well done to them.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 days ago (13 children)

“But Trump said he’d magically make eggs cheaper!!!!11!!”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Entenmann's donuts were buy one get one free right after the election. Bless Trump for turning donuts to twice as many just by thought alone!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Maybe he was speaking about trans people all along.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As well as lack of affordable or even free healthcare, lack of affordable housing, lack of vacation time, lack of decent pay, lack of maternity and paternity time, lack of affordable healthy food.

It is really becoming lack of anything and everything. The only thing that has rights in this country are guns and vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 days ago

If you don't stand for the rights of others, there'll be nobody left to stand for your's - so get standing!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (28 children)

Bet you they try to repeal Loving v. Virginia too. They'll "leave it up to the states" I'm sure, so that them and their rich buddies can keep their partners. Looking at you, Mitch.

I am emptied of all faith in their humanity or good sense.

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[–] GhiLA 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

Call me radical if you want but, I don't think Subject A of our cause should be rights for a minority of our citizenry.

Those rights should be unspoken truths we uphold regardless.

The common man will walk by TRANS RIGHTS 4000 times before they walk by UNION STRIKE.

The left needs to go back to focusing on workers, unions, labor, taxes, fairness and sense. Trans rights are important, and topical, but I feel the sjw yelling pushes a lot of people away from what our side of politics is actually about.

There isn't a single person I work with that wouldn't toss a flier with 'trans rights' written on it in the trash the second it was handed to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

What do you think of Sanders, he has spoken out in the past about how putting identity politics with regards to gender, race, etc ahead of economic issues isn't helping Democrats. That doesn't mean he's not staunchly in favor of supporting rights for those minorities though. Are you coming down on that side of the issue or are you saying eliminating the hard line on rights for minorities of all sorts as a party position/talking point would be favorable, and then once in power maybe resume supporting them?

Do you think Republicans using trans rights/bathroom bills as a wedge issue was effective in the last decade? There is something to be said for putting your best foot forward, using your most widely popular policies to run on being a strong winning strategy but I'm not sure how I feel about it. Is this another example of the new "when they go low, we go low" thought that's happening this week? Yeah weird times all around, my trans friends are looking a little scared.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You could not have missed the point harder

[–] GhiLA -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm taking points by consensus. Luckily, Lemmy has those built in and the congregation ain't with you, dog.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yeah but the point is that if they hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

It's easier to ramp up an authoritarian regime if you start off bullying a group that's small and easy to marginalized. Then you work your way up from there.

What you're saying is like "All lives matter" compared to "Black lives matter". The point of BLM wasn't that Black lives are more important, per se, but that they need more attention right now.

Like if you've got two kids, and one scrapes his knee, and the other cracks his head open...obviously (hopefully) you love both of your kids, but one of them is clearly in more need of immediate attention. They matter more right now, in the current context.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

I am someone who wouldn't give "T people" rights the time of day. It's absurd. If they're American, and a legal citizen, then they have the same rights as me. I don't have the time or patience to focus on a group that makes up a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population. We have real problems.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

I think you've misinterpreted the picture. These are supposed to be domino bricks. "trans rights" isn't the first brick because it is the most important - it's the first brick because it's the first that's going to fall.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I see your point but when basic human rights of a minority group are threatened, there is a moral imperative to organize to protect them, regardless of their popularity. There’s really no way around it. I think a framing that includes trans rights as only one aspect of a larger struggle for human freedom and dignity is the best strategy. Because there will need to be some discussion of trans rights if fascists continue to attack them. The alternative is to abandon a part of our community to violent oppression, which to me is unthinkable.

[–] Jax 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Moral imperative ≠ logical imperative. There's really no way around it.

People voted for Trump because he told them their issues are going to be addressed. You cannot tell someone that's willing to vote for a wannabe fascist that their rights are somehow being secured three dominoes removed from trans rights. That is an abstract concept. Despite the fact that children should be capable of understanding abstract concepts, these are people who clearly cannot.

You have to appeal to them first because there are more of them. They are selfishly stupid and the simple virtue of your message is not enough to persuade them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

The people you’re talking about also see things as adversarial when they don’t need to be. It’s just part of having a mind saturated in negativity. If we’re going to do something to help the trans people, it must mean we’re hurting everybody else somehow. By admitting their existence is valid, others are somehow diminished, in the eyes of the paranoid conservative.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that’s the importance of countermessaging. harris and walz had it right for 0.0076ms with their “weird” direction, like “look how fucking weird jd vance is for wanting to do genital inspections on every kid in order to make life harder for like 40 kids nationwide, what a freak!?!” and even some conservatives were like “yeah that’s a little far we don’t need to be doing all that.” that was a really successful strategy that had great potential.

…and then they dropped that like a month before the election in favor of courting suburban conservatives. from “weird” to “follow the law.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry now every time I see someone mentioning the "weird to follow the weird laws" pipeline I get unduly agitated at how fucking hard the DNC dropped the ball this cycle. Now I'm more than surprised as ever that Hilary won the popular vote with campaign managers like these.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

literally no need to apologize! it’s absolutely fucked

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. And fuck the very concept of "sjw", that shit isn't helpful

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