I'm not complaining. Only way I'd be happier with his VP pick is if he took up Rubio and forced him to give up Florida.

Vance is also a snake and he'll backstab the orange man at some point most likely.

Initially we didn't know that the shooter was Republican.

More over though I see a lot of people discussing stats for voters based off of 2020 but I really don't think that's a good year to base it on given that the covid lockdowns were taking place. A lot of people had nothing better to do and actually paid attention to politics. A lot of people were miserable, partly because of Trump's awful handling of covid but also just the fact that we were going to be miserable anyways.

All we really know at the end of the day is that Trump feeds off a lot of occurrences like this and it's worrisome. Many people are more anxious for their futures than ever before right now.

Guessing this person made some sort of mistake.

A lot of people on Fetlife for example know to vet their partners thoroughly so they don't end up with a serial killer and to be careful with the information trail they leave on there.

Man, people on lemmy need to look outside of their own bubbles a little more. There's more than just those in my camp and those against my camp.

There are uninformed voters who genuinely do not pay as much attention to politics as those of us on this platform do. Uninformed voters exist and they are influenced by the big headlines like this.

This is why other factors regarding a candidate such as whether or not they are likeable matter. It's not for me. It's not for you or any other hardline party entrenched voter. It's for them, the ones who barely pay attention.

I feel like you're a little out of touch here.

There are hardline Democrats and Republicans who aren't going to change their positions over anything. There's also many people who don't pay close attention to politics and only pick up on big news like this. Those are the people that are going to be influenced unfortunately. These people exist. They are uninformed, easily influenced and they can swing the outcome unfortunately.

This was the worst possible outcome. Unless someone intends on finishing the job it may as well be his election now.

He'll spend the rest of the election telling people how strong he is, how Biden could not have survived and he'll use the attack to validate all his claims of Democrat corruption/Republican righteousness.

I realize that there isn't anyone he could pick that I'd feel comfortable with considering I don't feel comfortable about him at all but the thought of this still made me shudder a little.

Even if he didn't try to have Pence killed, he doesn't need Pence at this point. He's got the evangelical voters now. I believe Rubio is out of Florida, so that won't work out for obvious reasons.

Meanwhile the other two have a bit too much spine and self-respect for themselves still. The orange ego maniac will be looking for someone that obeys him at every turn.

Well, well, well if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.

He's surprisingly right, even if he is part of the problem.

The current political climate in this country can't last into the long-term future. I dislike the idea of conflict but many of the current right's ideals simply cannot coexist with those outside of their cult. The right has also been more aggressive about dismantling the country in several areas as a means of takeover. They really do see this as a battle or a war.

It was worse than what the picture shows.

There's a bunch of videos on Twitter/X showing how they pushed her into that position, turned her around, and hauled her off before cuffing her and detaining her. She was thankfully released later, but this is just far too much. All of it is.

The comments are quite saddening, and also quite worrying.

This isn't to put women's issues down, but men have problems too. There's a reason why young men turn to these grifters and get manipulated by them.

Even above all of that, assuming you don't agree, it's a problem. We're building up generations of uneducated and toxic men led by these role models. We can't just shrug that off and say it's not our issue, because at some point it is going to be our issue.