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Summary

Steve Lee Hayes, a 65-year-old American tourist, was arrested in Tokyo for allegedly carving family members’ names into a wooden Torii gate at the Meiji Shrine.

Surveillance footage led police to his hotel, where he was detained.

Hayes admitted to the act, which could result in up to three years in prison or a fine of 300,000 yen ($1,900).

The Meiji Shrine, a significant Shinto site, was built in 1920 to honor Emperor Meiji and Empress Shoken. The incident occurs amid a surge in international tourism to Japan this year.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

He’s cooked.

For the unaware, Japan has like a 99.9% conviction rate after arrests, because they basically don’t arrest unless they’re absolutely 100% positive that they can secure a conviction. The suspect also has no right to an attorney, and police abuse is common; Even if you’re innocent, they’ll just keep you in an interrogation room without any food or water for 72 hours until you “confess”. They’ll literally just rotate cops into the interrogation room, without giving you a break for food or sleep.

And Japanese prisons are some of the strictest. You’re basically expected to remain silent, and every moment of your time is accounted for. You get like 20 minutes to eat each meal (in your cell) and then like 30 minutes of “recreational” time outside, where you’re expected to kneel in place in an empty courtyard. Moving to and from your cell is akin to old elementary schools where everyone would have to line up single file and silently walk from one place to the next while following the teacher. And that’s pretty much your daily routine for the entire time you’re in. You sit in your cell, slam down what little food you get, silently walk to the courtyard, silently kneel for 30 minutes, silently walk back to your cell, and slam down dinner before bedtime. Any deviation is dealt with swiftly and violently by the guards.

Japan has a very skewed idea of criminal justice, because the prevailing attitude is that if you’re in prison, you must have done something to deserve it. It’s sort of a cyclical problem, where their insanely high conviction rate means that the public already assumes suspects are guilty before they have even been convicted.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

"Guilty unless proven innocent" is literally the law in Japan

the Phoenix Wright series was literally made as a scathing critique of the Japanese Legal System, luckily the absurdity appeals to the West even if the commentary doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks for telling the truth, Alot of media like to show japan as a good country,like they wanna show certain countries as bad and good(I already knew some of the stuff but not everything mentione).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, it's kind of an open secret that you're not allowed to say anything bad about any non-white majority country that isn't China or North Korea on American Television.

Not saying that's a bad thing, in fact before that little "rule" was in place we got shit like "Tokyo Jokey-o" so I full understand the bias in favor of only focusing on the positives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ohh they got a rule for it, that would make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The Media used to be all "Look at these backwards countries, isn't it silly how cultures exist outside of ours?" and kinda had to beckpedal HARD in the other direction because it was racist as all hell.

The 90's was kind of the last time mainstream media was allowed to hate on asians....

Unless you were using criticisms of anime as a trojan horse for anti-asian sentiment (which explains all those "Lazy shallow parodies" of anime in the 2000's. For the life of me I have yet to see ANY anime that's just a school girl getting violated by a tentacle monster, yet the 2000's Western Media would have you believe this happened like three times in every episode of Sailor Moon, six times in every episode of Pokemon, but only every now and then in Dragon Ball)

Nowadays it's a little too far in the other direction since you REALLY can't say the slightest thing negative about any place that isn't Israel, China, or North Korea. And up until the last three years or so, it was considered Anti-Semetic to criticize Israel in any context.

[–] the_crotch 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

which explains all those "Lazy shallow parodies" of anime in the 2000's

Perfect Hair Forever was a masterpiece

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Perfect Hair Forever was the rare exception that actually felt like the person who wrote it had seen an anime before, as the tropes it mocked were very much in line with anime. It even had a nonsense engrish outro that pretended to be deep.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Hmm, I happened across this video last week of a womens prison, and it doesn't seem quite so grim...

https://youtu.be/p8paAewtl0c

I also saw another video in a mens prison a while ago that showed them cooking all the meals, and it looked strict, but not so bad as you describe.

Of course these videos are propaganda...

Still, I would take a Japanese prison before an American one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I'm really hoping this does change in Japan once the boomers fall out of power because younger Japanese people are also learning about the world online

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

What an arsehole.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Asshole should have his passport revoked on top of being jailed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

He likely was, it's very easy to lose your passport and be thrown to the wolves when you misbehave in another country, especially in Japan and South Korea. They do not fuck around.

[–] [email protected] 130 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Prison would be most appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The fine sure seems low for defacing an important religious shrine.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Not sure that shrine in particular but I do think torii gates in some shrines are replaced somewhat often. At Inari they had business names behind them which I assume are the 'sponsors' of that torii, probably they pay to have the gate fixed and I imagine that brings luck to that business. In short, he might have been lucky to deface the least critical part of the shrine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's good at least. I'd hate to think this was a century old (or whatever) torii he defaced.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

My understanding is that the business names are there because Inari is a kami associated with merchants and businesspeople. They donate a gate, slap the company name on it, and Inari provides.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

As he should be, what an absolute moron.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Put that fuckin Boomer in prison for 3 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Bordering on Gen X but anyone this disrespectful is still a boomer. They need to jail him. A fine is too easy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Genx is 1965 – 1980.

At 65, he's 6 years too old to be Gen X.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Looks like the Temu version of Bannon.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I could have guessed he was over 60 because he wasn't live streaming the whole thing. Just an old school asshole, not an influencer.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago

All that really proves is that people don't need YouTube to do things for attention.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago

Like how dumb do you have to be?

... Checks timeline. Oh thats the norm...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

what a stupid fuck

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That’s a slap on the wrist if they only impose the fine. That should be a five year jail sentence at least.

You cannot act like a dick like this in other countries. Defacing a religious site no less.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Americans being dumb cunts. What a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Like our election didn't give it away?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The rest of the world has known this for years.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

So have we.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why people want to carve names on stuff... It's the same people who write their names on bathroom doors

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

No idea but it’s been going on for millennia

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a great idea, maybe he should twerk in front of those South Korean "Woman of Comfort" statues next. /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (6 children)

America: making Japan worse since 1853 (with a brief pause in the mid-20th century while they did it to themselves).

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good, americans act like this and they get the consequences they deserve

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

If anyone acts like this they get the consequences.

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