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I don't believe it's creepy for two consenting adults with a large age gap to date. If a 25 year old woman dates a 50 year old man, I don't think it's creepy. It's none of my business. I don't judge them.

A man who dates younger women is called "creepy." A woman who dates younger men is called a cougar. Leonardo DiCaprio was judged harshly for dating a 19 year old woman. Most older women are not judged for dating younger men.

Sometimes it's hard to find a partner of the same age. For example, if a man divorces at 50, it would be hard to find a 50 year old woman. He would have to date someone younger.

The double standard is that men get judged harshly. Society has to change it's attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

For example, if a man divorces at 50, it would be hard to find a 50 year old woman.

Why? Do women tend to die at 49?

Obviously 50 year olds are in the dating pool. The man is one of them.

Women tend to live longer, right? Especially when they're unmarried, so you'd think it'd be even easier for a divorced 50 year old to find an older partner.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

They are adults. They can date who they want. It's not creepy or wrong. People should stay out of the private business of other adults. If it makes the couple happy, more power to them, I say.

[–] Hypnosis4162 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe it's important to avoid a blanket judgment when it comes to these cases, as labeling all of them as creepy oversimplifies the situation. Each case should be considered individually.

For instance, if a man is drawn to a much younger woman solely due to her age, that does raise concerns. Similarly, if he's pursuing younger women for the sake of exerting control, that's undeniably unsettling.

On the other hand, if a man genuinely values a woman's personality, appreciates her qualities, and they share a mutual affection, there shouldn't be an issue. Assuming that a woman is being exploited solely due to a significant age difference undermines her intellectual capabilities.

It's vital not to rush to judgment without the full context.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The law of "does it seem creepy" is easy to understand.

It's 1/2 your age plus 7.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Invented by whom and agreed upon with which consensus? The reddit consensus?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as long both adults are happy, why should anyone have the right to break the relationship up because it's not compatible with their personal, post-liberal moral compass?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good question and I’m glad you asked. What often gets ignored is that the detail of “two consenting adults” bit. I think it depends.

The ages of 18-21 are so different and full of experience and change. Lots of firsts for many, and going out into the world... I’d say it’s not only creepy, but predatory for someone to date that age range when they are decades older. It’s not the behavior of a mature adult to seek the company of inexperienced adults.

This actually happened to my sister when she was barely 18, groomed by a much older coworker. He was the first guy to pay attention to her. She never had a youth after that. But she did have a kid. Now she’s essentially caring for a teenager and a grandpa.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The ages of 18-21 are so different and full of experience and change. Lots of firsts for many, and going out into the world... I’d say it’s not only creepy, but predatory for someone to date that age range when they are decades older. It’s not the behavior of a mature adult to seek the company of inexperienced adults.

Yeah, I think it's awkward for a much older person to date someone 18-21.

happened to my sister

Sorry to read that!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on how big the age gap is, what the power balance is, etc. Like a 18yo with a 28yo is not the same as a 50yo with a 60 yo

[–] mqs 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have to worry whether it’s creepy, it’s probably creepy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Creepy is subjective.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weird post, but even weirder replies from you OP. You seem to have a direct connection to this subject and I'm leaving towards the idea that you've been called a creep a few times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's weird about this post? I'm pointing out the double standards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have seen way more judgement about women dating younger men, even just a few years younger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Really? I haven't noticed that on social media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm only 32. Never been called creepy, my friend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

“Creepy” is a word that should be used for Halloween IMO. I think the societal standards are something like (half age +7) for the older person in the relationship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't Leonardo dump them when they get to a certain age?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

on the other hand, it's public knowledge for a while that he does it and still women fall for it/him, knowing they have the clock ticking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The women probably know he only wants sex.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

well, everything's fine then, i guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think it makes it significantly worse. Like it's obviously not love at that point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's age 25.

He's going to be 50 next year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The double standard is that men get judged harshly. Society has to change it's attitude.

This discussion is a clear indicator that men judge each other quite harshly on the topic. The absolutist attitudes portrayed by some members here are the exact problem we are dealing with.

I am glad however that there are more sane members here than unsane --> "it depends" is the answer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think the larger issue is that men's sexuality is demonized by both traditionalists and feminists. If it's not age gap, it'll be something else.
As for me, I realized in my divorce that the family court system's bias is to protect itself (the state). If they think your soon-to-be-wife isn't capable of supporting herself, they will move as much money from you to her as is possible. So I narrowed my acceptable prospects to within 5% of my income, 10% of my age, and minor children are now a deal breaker.
Which in my area shrank my dating pool size to zero. No great loss on either side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

as long as its not one person waiting for the other to turn 18, its not creepy. it might be odd but whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really depends. In general there are maturity gaps along with age gaps. 25 is still pretty young maturity wise. Which is fine if the other person is in thier 30's. I couldn't see myself being with anyone under 30 now that I'm in my 40's.

But, to each thier own.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People don't always get more mature with age.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a big difference between being immature in your 20's and being immature in your 50's

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people probably don't get more mature past a certain age.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If that's the story you're going with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes when the difference is too big, I get a strange feeling about it - but I also don't like to judge people. But there is always a potential for a bad power dynamic since older people will often have more material mean and maybe more important life experience, to play the emotional immaturity of the younger person. But that's the same for women and man, and is more a case by case thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, sometimes the younger person is a gold digger.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, which is also shitty - except if that's what everyone involved is into.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The younger person is predatory in that case. Older people don't always have more power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Never claimed that older people always have more power. They have more experience, which can lead to better understanding of the word and had more time to improve their material conditions. But there are for sure naive and poor old people. That's why I concluded that it's a case by case situation - since it's not age but power dynamic that can(!) be problematic.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ahem... ex bartender here. ANYONE over the age of 21 who seeks out and dates people under 21 is at VERY LIKELY a person who would have sex with a child.

The scenario is as such: people over 21 ply their underage dates with alcohol. EVERY time they go out. It is the basis of the relationship. The young girl will often be the only one in a group of all guys and she'll always be overdressed (seen it a million times) and the girl is always already drunk when they got to my bar. But I would ID and then they'd get mad and leave. But yea. If you're under 21 dating an over 21 year old 9 times out of 10 the older person is supplying alcohol to the younger GF.

So that being said I am disgusted by those age gaps. Because you cannot lie to me, I'm no fool. That isn't a healthy relationship pretty much ever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such an American response. Alcohol consumption is legal under the age of 21 in many countries outside of the US and it's completely ordinary for a university student finishing their first degree at 22 to have sexual relations with another university student starting their degree at 17 or 18.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You completely missed the point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing your experience!

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