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These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,... whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.

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[–] [email protected] 220 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Like. Did people forget how insane everyday was when he was President? Like you never knew what was gonna happen he was always wanting the attention.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm just going to keep riding this horse until it fucking dies but the very first thing he did was take everything Obama did during his presidency and throw it out the window, including the pandemic playbook.

That playbook would have given us step by step instructions and reactions to deal with any type of suddenly erupting national pandemic like Ebola or coronavirus.

And because of this, which was by all measures a racially motivated attack on Obama, more than 1 million Americans died in a badly managed pandemic.

Trump's racism killed a million Americans.

It undoubtedly exacerbated the problem for the entire world and his total kill count is likely much more than that.

How can you let somebody who genocided millions of people through racism sit in the oval office?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago

It's a cult. They have people denying COVID ever existed. Heartily rejecting vaccines.

There's just too much to list but it only ever makes sense if you take whatever he's doing as right and readjust everyone around him to work does it ever make sense.

The fact that this election is even close is absolutely insane to me.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

It's crazy that the vote is apparently close. Really goes to show how many "average" americans have utterly lost any connection to actual reality and have guzzled enough of the kool-aid to believe the weird whacky world of wonders the religious fascists constantly conjure up.

I wonder though, is this ultimately a failure not of the education and internal offices, decades ago? We let schools let people down, leading to them becoming undereducated terrible parents who let their kids down and made them vulnerable to be exploited by republicans and churches and crypto grifters. :(

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago

exactly what i was thinking about. it was such a tense and shameful period.

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I just hope if he loses, it’s by a wide margin so there’s no challenge. Just decisive victory and we can all move on….

[–] [email protected] 146 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t underestimate their tactic. For the republican presidential campaign, they will recognize only one of two outcomes: victory, or election tampering/fraud/manipulation. And, the wider the margin of win, the stronger the rhetoric will be.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As long as he loses I think it’s mostly good. He currently does not hold the levers of power, and I think as much as his supporters like to play the victim, I think a second loss will lead to evaporating support. Hard to pretend to be a strongman when you look weak

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A second loss should be a death knell of the current Republican party. He won't transition any of his power to Vance or any other Republicans. He could die and we still would see 10% of the Americans to vote for him in 2028 because his death was just media propaganda as far as they are concerned.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stop teasing me with best case scenarios.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

as an european, i am watching in absolute shock. i really dont understand how HALF the USA can still vote for this Chicken Nugget of a person.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago

Some people only have information from one side of the story. If Trump wins, he will likely try to mimic what both Putin and Orbán did with the media.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

As a person from Europe, who's is living next to Ukraine, who's girlfriend is ukranian, who's many friends are Ukrainian, who's many friends died due to that terrorist state: If you were eligible to vote in the US and didn't, fuck you.

Any vote that didn't go to Kamala, is a vote for fascism, a vote to accelerate and finish the genocide of palestine, a vote to cease support for Ukraine and a vote to help terrorists in ruzzia. If you support any of that, Fuck. You.

But I know my ukranian brothers, they will not surrender. Even if you selfish American pricks don't support them. They will fight until they can't fight anymore, and then they will still fight.

Unlike you, they are brave. They are heroes. They know whats fucking right.

And frankly, for all terrible things coming to the US, if you didnt vote, you deserve them all.

If you are from the LGBTQ+ community, not white or a woman, and you didn't vote, you have just commited suicide.

I will still support Ukraine, financially. Its not much but I don't care. And if its not enough and the worst comes, I am ready to die to save my brothers, just like my people did in the past.

I am willing to do my part, if you didn't vote, you didnt. So one, last fuck you.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

NYT is calling it for Trump. America as we know it, may be over.

The war in Ukraine is about to end, with Russia probably getting everything they want, NATO might disband, China likely takes Taiwan, 100 years of authoritarianism and tyranny may be upon us after Trump truly consolidates powers, and nukes the Federal government.

I fucking wish I was being hyperbolic.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nah, we're gonna balkanize sooner or later. Economy is fucked beyond fucked. (Thank you Reagan) It won't be able to keep going. Especially not with republicans at the tiller. The end of the US will be the same as every other empire. But with nukes.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

If the Dems win and they don't put a boot on the neck of this fascist movement it will take over eventually.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

But that would require them to reign in the very same companies that sponsor them. One can hope, but it seems unlikely.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So as far as I understand it as of now it's pretty much decided early with almost no chance of Harris making it.

So there you are. You're right. I was right. We all were.

We hoped for sanity.

But it seems a massive criminal openly stating he will run a dictatorship has been voluntarily elected.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like allowing someone in your house telling you that he's going to rob you, but he promises to do it LEGALLY. It's hilarious and maddening at the same time.

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[–] index 79 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People around the world already live in terror of what USA government may do to them

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the thing is: Trump is not a clever man. In fact, he's blantantly, obviously, ferociously stupid. He didn't just appear out of nowhere. The rest of us have been watching this dog eat grass for the last 50 years.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

I can't beleive the number of New Yorkers (NYC residents and expats) that trust Trump. He has wreaked havoc across the city and metro area with terrible buildings, stiffed contractors, and constant financial mockery. His post-TV show perception has done an insane job of making even the most affected people forget what a sack of shit he his. They really think 1. He runs businesses well due to his continued financial growth and that 2. Running the country like his businesses will somehow benefit them, the national equivalent of those laid off from his private endeavors.

So anyway, that's how I know they just racist assholes.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I wonder if those folks who cast a protest vote for Jill Stein will be sleeping soundly tonight... I sure hope not. I hope they're fucking terrified.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Of course they are sleeping soundly. They'd literally be marching into the camps convinced they did the right thing.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Hahahahhahahaha you think Trump is the last guy to feel threatened by? The dude was just the starter. There's a whole movement now with tons of corrupt politicians who will try to get a shot at the presidency. I'm thinking about the Florida governor for example.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

USA is a country with a lot of inequality, if not rising inequality, so a fertile breeding ground for populists. And it has an ancient voting system that always gives a two party system so perfect for this kind of polarisation. The system with campaign contributions will also make sure nothing changes about inequality and is making things worse. Yeah, it'll happen again.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I'm seeing a lot of "democracy is going to die" posts.. But... I hate to break it to you:

America is not a democracy. And if somehow it is a democracy, then it's an incredibly bad one. It's the least democratic democracy in the Western world.

The two party system, the first past the post voting system, the indirect method of counting votes, lobbying, gerrymandering, the electoral collage. Systems to try and manipulate what a vote means. Systems that try to remove as much democracy from democracy as possible, while still being able to keep up some mock appearance.

Your whole country is fucked and backwards from the very beginning, and that wouldn't be so bad. But if America does something we all have to suffer for it!

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

People outside the US have always been terrified of what the US president might do. Imagine if China had military bases all over the world.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The Kenyan Ambassador to the UN once addressed criticism of his country's relationship with China thusly:

"Every time the English visit Kenya, they bring a lecture. Every time the Chinese visit Kenyan, they build a hospital"

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Trump and team don't need to win the election. They just need to make it tainted with enough irregularities that it forms the basis for the entire thing to be called into question. Even if that evidence is created by them. And this time they're more prepared for that outcome. They've had years to work on his scenario.

The court cases and investigations will go on for years.

Doesn't need to win a vote at all.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

They already won culturally, as they managed to shift the political culture closer towards theirs. They also managed to set issues that are "theirs". We see the same shit in Europe, were supposedly progressive parties are implementing the wildest dreams of racist anti-immigration, anti-refugee, anti-science and authoritarian surveillance state policies that the fascists dreamed off. All in the name of "stopping" them, while neglecting actually relevant issues like social services and infrastructure investments. Rinse and repeat and by the time the fascists take over all they have to do is remove the remaining formalities of division of power and democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

If Trump loses there are the next two months of wondering how many people will die around the inauguration, then the next two years of wondering what the project 2027 people are going to do, then...

The only way to stop this is to fix the US system. Fix the courts. Fix the elections. Fix gerrymandering. Fix the right wing control of the media. Fix the lies from the "news".

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So this is how a democracy dies...it votes for its own death.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

The best part will be if he wins, those in power will just sit around with their thumbs up their butts waiting for fascism to take over on Jan. 20th.

EDIT: It's thumbs up their butts time for 2 and a half months.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Also, vote if you haven't yet.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

I like your optimism but I think he was just the test run.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Me: unsubbing every single politics community

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