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We might be living the final moments of not being terrified what the US President is going to do
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As a person from Europe, who's is living next to Ukraine, who's girlfriend is ukranian, who's many friends are Ukrainian, who's many friends died due to that terrorist state: If you were eligible to vote in the US and didn't, fuck you.
Any vote that didn't go to Kamala, is a vote for fascism, a vote to accelerate and finish the genocide of palestine, a vote to cease support for Ukraine and a vote to help terrorists in ruzzia. If you support any of that, Fuck. You.
But I know my ukranian brothers, they will not surrender. Even if you selfish American pricks don't support them. They will fight until they can't fight anymore, and then they will still fight.
Unlike you, they are brave. They are heroes. They know whats fucking right.
And frankly, for all terrible things coming to the US, if you didnt vote, you deserve them all.
If you are from the LGBTQ+ community, not white or a woman, and you didn't vote, you have just commited suicide.
I will still support Ukraine, financially. Its not much but I don't care. And if its not enough and the worst comes, I am ready to die to save my brothers, just like my people did in the past.
I am willing to do my part, if you didn't vote, you didnt. So one, last fuck you.
I didn’t vote because the lack of domestic violence protections in my state mean that I have been working 7 am - 9 pm every day for the past two weeks. I live in Oklahoma, so voting is pissing in the ocean. There’s a good chance I’ll be murdered or arrested for existing in the next year!
Oh, well good Palestinians and Ukrainians (and afterwards likely many other Europeans) will be dying in the masses. You could've had problems faking a sick leave.
I work for a charter school, which means I have no sick leave. I also tutor, and don’t get paid if I don’t tutor. I’ve been working usually 8 am to 9 pm for about the past three months.
I also live in the only state that’s counties are 100% red. Part of the reason that I work so much is that there are no legal protections for my employment, housing, or even just discrimination in divorce court ❤️ I’m hopelessly in debt and genuinely terrified for my life, because I do a lot of work with children in rural areas and a cop could very easily rape and murder a transgender man with no consequences out there.
I do deeply care about what is happening in Palestine and Ukraine; my vote in a state which doesn’t recognize me as a human being doesn’t usually matter anyway.
Fun story - in high school, I did a lot of volunteering for a city council run in my city. The person running was a lesbian - she wasn’t out publicly - but it was pretty important to me after a kid at my high school killed himself after a horrific city council meeting over a pride month proclamation. We worked our asses off, the opponent barely campaigned and was fucking unhinged.
The day before the election, he sent out an illegal flyer. It said something like “sex, lies, and we wish we had a videotape!” They outed her the day before, and she lost.
I’ve knocked a lot of doors in my life. I can tell you confidently that my vote will never matter in Oklahoma, just like my personhood doesn’t. I’m sorry I didn’t perform my civic duty, but I’m working on some of those earlier levels of Maslow’s needs right now.
You sure showed them!!
What about what I wrote made that come across as a choice? I haven’t had time to clean the puke that’s been festering in my bathroom for weeks. I don’t have time to do the dishes. I work and work and work, and it is killing me. I would have loved to have had the time to stand in line and vote, if just for the break.
What a naive and infantile way of looking at the world.
You seem like someone who would ask "why should I vote for better oppression?" without a hint of irony.
Still, it's good to see that you'll be alright, either way. That's good to know, at least. I'm glad you won't be effected by any of this.
I am really surprised that people believe one person will change whole course of US military complex.
If anything they will put someone who is representing their position, not the other way around.
Things are determined, this is just people choosing PR person.
If you are a leftist and didn't vote. It is abso-fucking-lutely your fault.
The DNC unilaterally presented Harris who received 20% less votes than Biden in 2020. Non-voters have sent a clear message that it is the DNCs fault.
So you don't vote to make a point? And that point is that you're screwed for at least the next 4 years? Good call
Maybe being roughly screwed for 4 years is better than being gently screwed for 12+ years by a party that argues in court that it doesn't have to follow any voting rules because it is a private corporation.
They didnt blame the left. They blamed people who didnt vote. Be they left, right or middle. If you didnt vote you are the problem. If you didnt vote Harris you are personally reaponsible for the coming fascism in america. You are responsible for project 2025 becoming reality.
And most of all we can blame the DNC for being so shit, that people preferred Trump over their choice.
And that really is it. The only ones to blame here are the Democrats! They are the ones who insisted on funding genocide and taking every opportunity to prove they're moving ever further to the right (which they are) for the sake of courting so-called moderate Republicans, and constantly spitting in the face of genuine progressives that are supposed to be their base.
"You had better vote for us because Trump is even worse!" is the only sincere response they had for anyone concerned with their inaction on everything important from women's rights to climate change, and their actively trying to be even worse than Trump on things like deportation and the border! It's no wonder that people who care about these things, people who care about other people being literally genocided, didn't want to vote for the Democrats who made a show of how much they love sending money and weapons to the genociders.
Yet so many people here even in this thread don't want to blame the responsible party - the Democrats themselves - but instead lay it all on the people who absolutely have good reason and every right not to want to vote for these people hurting them just because the other guy might hurt them worse. That's deeply abusive. Everyone who is saying "Fuck you for not voting!" is sickening to me. It's bordering on victim blaming. They should be saying "Fuck you for not being remotely worth voting for!" to the Democrats! The fact that we now have another 4 years of Trump is 100% the fault of the Democrats themselves, so direct your anger at them, where it belongs.
No one has good reason to choose fascism over democracy. The non voters and third party voters did exactly that. They are the same kind of scum as MAGA and will go down in history as exactly that.
The choice was fascism A or fascism B. If you think we had a choice for "democracy" in this country you're pitiably deluded.
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What you're saying is "marginalized people who were given a choice between which flavor of oppressive regime to vote for but didn't choose the one I wanted them to, they're scum and deserve whatever is coming to them and worse." Nah, you're the one leaning into fascism here. It's frankly disgusting.
If you think democrats are fascist you are as dumb as I imagine non voters to be. You have a Trump who is openly calling for the execution of his opponents and on the other side a Harris who wants to work together with political opponents.
Most of all we can blame the voters who dont care about their democracy. No matter what the DNC did. If they have a fascist as an opponent they should win
Fascism was already in America the moment Biden gave Israel funding for the genocide and the Democrats threw all sorts of social issues under the bus. "Not fascism" in the current state of the country was not a choice, the only difference was how fast fascism would accelerate. The Democrats chose to make their platform boring in favor of donors and lose, and the fact that so many people support Trump shows that this country has much bigger problems than just that Trump was elected. This is a problem that needs much more than just voting to fix.
You dont know what fascism is if you think it is Biden supporting Israel. Lmao but you will find out soon enough what it really is.
But thanks for proving my point that idiots dont mind fascism. You dont even know what it is!
Genocides? Concentration camps? Racial discrimination and dehumanization? Israel has all of these things and Biden is propping it up. If that isn't fascism then what is?
Biden is not a far right totalitarian with an ultranationalist ideology. We cam argue that Netanyahu is, sure. Biden isn't.
To not vote Harris because she would also support Israel probably is idiotic seeing how much Trump supports Israel since Trump is very close to the same ideology that Netanyahu has.
A gorilla just broke out and is ripping people's dicks off, but people somehow blame the people who say that we shouldn't cage gorillas in the first place.
Imma be honest, this analogy confused me a bit. Could you dumb that down a notch?