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[–] [email protected] 108 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

The last usable windows, maybe

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hmm, but did they say the last version of Windows, or the last version of Windows you're going to buy? And if it's the latter, is the upgrade to Windows 11 free? If yes, then technically it's still correct.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just wish I could buy a copy of windows 11 that didn't have any telemetry or AI.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Remember when Billiam Gates said nobody would ever need more than 640kb of RAM?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Yup, then Javascript was invented

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I like all the comments ready to take a fisting in the ass from Microsoft just to keep Windows 10.

If you raised a fucking stink instead of taking this shitty deal, they may be forced to keep supporting it for free anyway like they did with Windows 7.

They've really got you guys cowed into paying for the convenience of getting fucked, don't they?

This is a company with a market cap of $3.04 trillion and you guys are just gonna bend over and take it for $30 bucks? Wew lad. They don't need your fucking thirty dollars, and you fucking know it. It's a god damned shakedown.

Microsoft: Wouldn't it be a shame if your computer was somehow insecure and got hacked?

Sounds like a Mafioso showing up for protection money to me.

EDIT: There's still about 700 million Windows 10 PC's still on the market. If every single existing Windows 10 machine paid for this service, Microsoft would make $21 billion dollars next year off this alone. It's a shakedown, do the fucking math. (700,000,000 x $30 = $21,000,000,000) Even if only half do it, it's still a cool $10.5 billion.

EDIT II: This also normalizes the practice of paying for security updates for consumers. You really want to take us down that path where every security update is paid?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft: heh heh heh, looks like you'll be paying me $30 for that windows 10 installation.

Me: Bitch, I'm on Windows 7, and keep ignoring the OS bitching at me to turn the firewall on!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (9 children)

if that is connected to the internet, its probably infested

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Considering that when people paid $100 for that OS they were told that it would be the "last Windows to be released", shouldn't there be a class action lawsuit?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They weren't told that, that was an off-hand comment by an employee (not even a spokesperson) that the media took and ran with. Source:

Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10.

I think they meant "latest" not "last."

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For what it's worth

"Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers," says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. "We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Can I give them 50 dollars and not have to use windows at all?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better yet: you don't have to pay Microsoft at all to make the switch!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm really surprised they haven't managed to push Azure Linux into the fold. Release a desktop version, Find some way to make attractive for all those Windows 10 people ready to walk away. Then just slowly fold all the bullshit back in. They could even bring the gui completely Windows 10esque

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The problem with that would be that it would make switching to another linux ditribution very, very easy. They would have 99.99% compatibility so a lot of people would switch to another distro if they add stuff like recall.

They would also be opening the can of worms that is massive software support for linux (which is arguably already opening.)

[–] hayes_ 8 points 3 days ago

Heck, I’ll let you not use windows for $49.

Isn’t the free market great?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Extended updates always cost money, and this is pretty cheap relative to extended support for previous versions of Windows. I don't understand why it's newsworthy?

Windows 10 is nearly ten years old.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How about I not pay and take my chances...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

it's pretty dangerous not to be getting security updates. probably for regular users won't be a big deal. i have a feeling really bad vulnerabilities will be patched even if you don't pay for it just out of a potential PR issue. but i would almost definitely pay this if I were a business who didn't plan on switching to Win 11 soon

on a personal level i don't understand why anyone continues to use windows these days

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In a way, isn't this just saying windows 11 is not ready as a replacement? Because fuck me my work laptop drives me nutty, IT hasn't locked down all the popups and I can't fix it withut IT..

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In a way, isn't this just saying windows 11 is not ready as a replacement?

No, Microsoft has offered paid extended support for afaik all other windows versions at least as far back as XP.

There is always something that can't be upgraded because it's running some obscure software or something. At work we are unfortunately running a single Windows Server 2003 server because it's running some software that's absolutely critical and apparently can't be upgraded (I should test that though).

Pretty much every hardware or software company in at least IT offers (often really expensive) extended support for old stuff.

It's just the way of things. It isn't an admission that Win 11 Is bad of any kind

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Man, I would love a follow up on that critical app. When I started in IT we had a sole dev that kept telling IT things couldn't be updated and I guess they never challenged him. One day I got sick of trying to downgrade to 32 bit windows and moving pc's around to for the growing needs of the company while one guy dictated everything has to stay old and shitty. Found out that alot of stuff he claimed could work only on 32 bit windows or server 2003, just needed to be tried on windows 10 or server 2016 and it was fine.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

"Please you monsters, just pay, our children are getting older, and it's time they moved out and bought their OWN islands off Seattle!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Counteroffer - spend that $30 on a drink and turn them down. Just keep on using windows 10 and clog up their support tickets ^_^

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Wait. They want me to pay for something I already paid for?

Well guess my $2.5k new windowless machine is looking better everyday.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

Thank you for your service to Linux adoption o7

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“Enrolled PCs will continue to receive Critical and Important security updates for Windows 10; however, new features, bug fixes, and technical support will no longer be available from Microsoft,” explains Yusuf Mehdi, executive vice president and consumer chief marketing officer at Microsoft.

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who's had to open a Microsoft support ticket can assure you technical support is already not available from Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Still cheaper than my Arch Premium membership

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How do you activate Arch Premium? I got that stupid "Activate" overlay on my desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (11 children)

$30 to not have to deal with Windows 11 for another year feels like the deal of the century.

I love how they're like 'but you won't get new features!'. They may have still not figured out that nobody cares about 'new features' being stuffed into the OS, but I guess you can't have everything.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Windows hasn't added any features of value since Windows 7.

[–] iAmTheTot 24 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I mean, the HDR support and multi window snapping, as well as remembering window positions on multiple displays.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Why l would pay 30$ to dumpester fire OS to use it securely for another year when l could install Linux for free with more than 7 year security?

And consumers can only pay for single year.

It just shows how M$ doesn't care about their costumers treating them like lab rats.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I switched to Linux myself but can we please stop lying about Linux being a drop-in replacement? There is enough sofware that does not work.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (27 children)

A lot of Linux users here think the conversation begins and ends with game support. A lot of us use our computers for work and there is a lot of productivity and creative software that does not play nice with Linux. I've probably said this a dozen times here before but I'll say it again: Not all of us use our computers solely for gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

Microsoft got the grift of a century. Make Win11 so bad that people will literally pay you NOT to force them onto it! /s

Seriously though, fuck Microsoft - $30 per year to roll out the occasional security update is obscene! They can go stuff themselves with their $3 trillion market cap

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck that. I already paid for the Pro edition of 10 specifically for features Windows 11 doesn't have in any version. IDGAF if it's free; it's not an upgrade. It's a downgrade.

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