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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This happened in my art class once. Our kooky art teacher invited an ex-student in without any prior warning and we were supposed to ask him questions on his art (he did book covers).

Silence, no one was having this shit. Out of pity I asked him questions on some tiny details I noticed on the spot. More silence, I ask about different tiny details. And so forth.

I've realised that there's a large portion of the populace that are perfectly comfortable in excruciating silence if it's not at their expense.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Just imagine this with the books I had to read in school. Yes, I would have read it, I'm a fast reader, so a bad book does not waste too much time. On the other hand, I would have no problems with grilling the author over the shit he or she wrote. Because basically every book we had to read for school was crap. There are so many good books, books that would spark interest and passion for reading more, but somehow they had selected the worst of the worst back then, aimed at making children reel in horror when they see books and vow never to touch a book again after school.

[–] taladar 18 points 8 hours ago

Part of it is also what they make you do to the book. I remember one exercise involving a book of our choice and of course I selected one I already liked at the time. The analysis itself tends to make a book a lot less fun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Huh. I guess my experience was better I remember reading My Side of the Mountain and The Giver, among other things. Usually pretty decent reads though.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Imagine bullying someone because they read a book.

They should be thankful the school didn't punish the class for not doing the assignment.

[–] babybus 13 points 9 hours ago

Imagine bullying someone because they read a book.

Because anon was different. He was the only one who read the book. That's why.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 12 hours ago

Fuck you, I didn't even read your comment, you literate poopiehead!

ILLITERACY RULES!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I was home schooled,* and occasionally I wish I had gone to public school, because I missed out on a lot of cultural touchstones, but then I'm reminded that kids are fucking horrible to other kids at any sign of differentness, and I was a fat, nerdy, gay bookworm, so, yeah, I'm good with the way things shook out. Haha

*Got a great education, not a religious nutjob, was not raised by right wing zealots.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Home schooled kids on average are smarter. Public schools tend to lower their standards to get a certain percentage of students to pass.

Plus I bet your teacher was hot.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Considering half the home schooled kids are kept for indoctrination and/or abuse purposes, I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Considering they won't even hold kids back a grade here anymore, I could see it. But I wouldn't be surprised if the curve of home schooled kid intelligence has two peaks, one corresponding to parents who make their best effort and another corresponding to the ones you're talking about.

[–] julietOscarEcho 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yup

Homeschooling: A comprehensive survey of the research, Robert Kunzman, Milton Gaither Other Education-the journal of educational alternatives 2 (1), 4-59, 2013

"A final consistent finding in the literature on academic achievement is that parental background matters very much in homeschooler achievement. Belfield (2005) found greater variance in SAT scores by family background among homeschoolers than among institutionally-schooled students. Boulter’s (1999) longitudinal sample of 110 students whose parents averaged only 13 years of education found a consistent pattern of gradual decline in achievement scores the longer a child remained homeschooled, a result she attributed to the relatively low levels of parent education in her sample. Medlin’s (1994) study of 36 homeschoolers found a significant relationship between mother’s educational level and child’s achievement score. Kunzman’s (2009a) qualitative study of several Christian homeschooling families found dramatic differences in instructional quality correlated with parent educational background. "

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There's another bias in that kids with educated parents in public school will also have higher grades on average than the average public school kid. I don't know how much that might affect conclusions. It doesn't seem necessary to make the point.

I have no doubt that a private tutor can outperform a public school, but it takes a number of factors, and it's more difficult to outperform public school combined with that same personal, educated tutor.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

people were muttering nobody read it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's not a punshment by the teachers

[–] babybus 5 points 9 hours ago

To be fair, your question was ambiguous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Okay, yeah, I'm wrong here. I thought the statement that the name calling lasted for a year meant that the ignored assignment was left unpunished. Don't really know why I thought that, now that I read it again.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry anon but they probably were gonna bully you regardless

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It's Anon's parents fault for not teaching him how to deal with bullies.
~~You should talk to them and explain that what they are doing hurts your feelings!~~
Yeah no, fuck up the next guy who calls you ass-worm, bite and scratch if you can't knock them down, make sure they remember that fucking with you bears consequences. Push a stick to their asses while you scream "ass-worm, huh?!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

You okay bud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Hit the gym until they no longer dare to bully you

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Ugh, can relate. I love to read; I used to go through two books per week as a kid during middle school and high school. Not even just fiction, but non-fiction about topics that interested me like space and aviation. I even read books on my Palm Pilot PDA, well before e-readers were a thing.

So as you can imagine, I had an exceptional vocabulary compared to classmates. This had some annoying effects as well. Whenever I did written assignments for a new class with a different teacher, they’d always accuse me of either cheating or plagiarism. Because I was using way more ‘difficult words’ than classmates. A two minute conversation usually cleared it up; they quickly found out that I did in fact do the work and understood the assignment.

I don’t envy teachers today. Reading comprehension has declined sharply, and kids just don’t like to read as much as they did when I was young. Despite the fact that books are now way more accessible to them. I fear it’s going to result in an illiterate generation…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Maybe not illiterate.

But I run into a lot of people who are incomprehending, and too proud to ask for elaboration when they didn't get what you said or wrote.

[–] conciselyverbose 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I read everything I could get my hands on (and still do), except the shit they assigned us for school.

I get "historically relevant" classics are a thing, but students don't want to read most of them because they're brutally formal and none of them can relate to them. It's a chore primarily because the curriculum is all old and because burying 500 layers of symbolism into a story isn't how people write any more (because it sucks).

If more reading assignments were stories written to actually entertain kids and just asking the kids to put themselves in the character's shoes and "what would you do", maybe they wouldn't hate reading so much.

[–] taladar 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

At some point I started dialing up the symbolism interpretation up to 11 but somehow they didn't like that either. I came to the conclusion that they want you to validate their particular interpretation of a work even if it put too much thought into it compared to the author, not put too much thought into it yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I remember my teacher being upset about "official" interpretation. She called it out as over the top IIRC and then still taught it to us, because it was required on exams.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I mean it’s literally a story about a kid being good.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

A story about a single kid being good while many other kids were shitbags.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

But only because of his high regardation.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 13 hours ago

If this happened at my school people would thank op for making the assembly less awkward

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago

Good job anon. No good deed goes unpunished.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago

fkn worth it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Middle School sucks ass for everyone who's not a rich kid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

~~Middle~~ School sucks ass for everyone who’s not a rich kid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

Sounds like a win

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Worth, 1000x over.