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Why are people willing to sell their kids to defend the above companies?
I don't really see this happening.
As for why I recommend some things, it's usually because my recommendation is better than the alternative.
Perfection is hard to find, but in the meantime I'll recommend something good over something bad.
Same here. I only support those companies because they're the best options for what they offer, and I'm not gonna let perfection get in the way of progress. Even though Mozilla is making some business choices I don't agree with, I'm gonna keep recommending Firefox until some other non-Chromium browser comes along (which unfortunately isn't gonna happen for a long time).
Same with AMD- they are so much more friendly to the open-source community than Nvidia or Intel, so I will recommend them to everyone, until the moment they start being worse. At that point, I'll start recommending whoever seems best at that point in time.
With Apple it's just sunk cost fallacy / Stockholm syndrome. Maybe you like apple products, that's fine. But when you're later confronted with almost £1000 for a monitor stand the mind needs to choose between i) I'm a mug and these people have clearly taken advantage of me or ii) no, this is a superior product, I'm a superior consumer, those poor chumps just can't see it.
There isn't really an in-between.
Apple does have a genuinely good eco system and a lot of good products.
The 1000 dollar monitor stand is not one of them though.
I never really understood why people rave about apple's ecosystem. I find that my android phone and Windows pc can do anything I need them to do, conveniently, and it's easy to transfer data between them or over the Web. I find it very frustrating that iphones only support a small range of file types, and that they can only use Bluetooth with other iPhones.
The people willing to drop 1k on a monitor stand probably deserve to be ripped off
Flexing on the poors, too.
Casio objectively makes the best watches out there but Rolex is doing a very brisk business.
I don't see people "forming a cult".
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Apple does a walled garden that I don't want but some people are fine with. If you give them a bunch of money and these days entrust them with a bunch of your data, they will give you a pre-set-up environment that works well. That's fine for a lot of people.
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Valve does a successful electronic storefront that has synergized well with the Linux world. God forbid Microsoft were in their position. They aren't DRM-free, but you can use GOG if you want that, and the commercial game world was not going to go DRM-free.
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Kagi takes money, provides privacy for a search engine and some perks; they let their customer be a customer rather than the product. I use it myself, am happy with it. That's a tradeoff that I'd wanted for a while, and would like Google to provide with YouTube.
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GitHub wouldn't be my own choice for source hosting in the Microsoft era, but so far they seem to be getting along reasonably well. They provide functionality that's needed, source hosting plus issue tracking, and their system is pretty usable.
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Mozilla does Firefox, which is much more customizable than Chrome. I use it!
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I don't know what 404 Media does. Some sort of tech reporting, looks like. Okay, fine.
If you don't want to use any of those, you can probably avoid all of them, other than maybe GitHub if projects you use are hosted there.
I decided in the late '90s, when Apple killed the Mac clone market and took things towards a single-vendor platform, that it wasn't where I wanted to be, but for some people, it's fine. Other than 404 Media, which I don't know about, I don't have any problem with the others here, and some are companies that I'm fairly happy with.
Jeez there's been a shit ton of astroturfing happening lately. I guess Lemmy is finally big enough to be targeted by these guys.
How much do you all get paid? I'm interested.
A sense of community and tribalism.
and lots of money spent on advertising
What's wrong with 404?
And the answer is marketing. Exploiting our subconscious is down to a science these days.
I can't speak for 404 Media, but the rest of them build products that people enjoy using. They fill a niche that the users appreciate and do a good job at it.
It's hard to fault people for liking things.
Where?
Apple used to be the underdog in comparison to Microsoft before the iPhone existed.
Mozilla, well I tend to defend FOSS organizations, but this particular one isn't very easy to defend.
I think you should reframe the thinking. All corporations are profit driven, and exploiting a devoted fanbase is very profitable. Innovation, customer service, commitment to quality, these are things that cam build loyalty, but capitalism demands growth. If you run out of ideas or saturate the market, the only way to grow profits is to cut costs. Customer service and commitment to quality might be the last things to go, but they will go eventually.
One reason is because they offer a vocal umbrella against the establishment.
Because branding exists.
easier to hate than love
Apple and microsoft have each a market cap value of 3 trillion dollars (3.000.000.000.000). That's 3 times 1000 billions. A billion is 1000 times a million. There's a million millions in a trillion. With about 1000$ or even less a month you can pay someone to shill for your "cult" 8 hours a day.
Saturn, man...
Because those companies were good in the past. But they fall since. Their user base are still in the past in the good times. They can't see what the companies turn into.