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Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance has dug in on his claim Haitians in an Ohio community are abducting and eating pets, even as the state’s GOP governor and other officials insist there is no evidence of such behavior.

But the salacious claim was easily debunked.

“The Vance campaign provided the Wall Street Journal with a police report to prove their claims about cat-eating Haitians in Springfield. The WSJ spoke to the woman who filed it, who said she later found her cat alive and well in her basement. She also apologized to her Haitian neighbors.” Justin Baragona posted to X with a link to a story in The Wall Street Journal.


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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago

I'm going to file a police report claiming JD Vance murdered and cannibalized a family of Haitian immigrants. That's proof it actually happened, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

It does not matter, maga will say it’s fake news, they believe what their lord and savior trump says. He has a huge voting base and nothing that he does will deter them from casting their vote onto him.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

why are they doubling down on this i don't get it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 49 minutes ago

Literally dead cat method.

Distract you with an issue, to divert attention from a) shit debate performance, b) lack of policies

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago

Because it all boils down to Trump's ego.

Saying it made him look like an utter fool. So his enablers will do whatever they have to do to prove that he was "correct".

It's honestly frightening.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

This shitshow of an election is really getting on my nerves. This is not news, this is garbage speak out of a garbage person. And I have to read all these garbage headlines here because it is very much possibe that these garbage people will get elected. How low can you sink, america?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

This is how Nazi Germany happened and we’re blindly walking right into it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I have a set of uBlock Origin filters I turn on in the "my filters" tab when this garbage gets too exhausting.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

Aren't you worried about accidentally blocking information about Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I went to a bar with some cousins last night and the Tigers game was on some of the TVs. Half the commercials were political ads. There was no sound and CC wasn't on but sweet Jesus I was so sick of it. I'm trying to avoid watching sports in general just because it's gonna be nothing but the same crap for the next 2 months

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

...and the text messages, and the canvassers, and the snail mails, and the billboards (if you live where they are allowed), and and and.

Wish it would all just go away, I'll vote how I want despite all the waste of media.

Politicians should get some sanctioned debates and interviews on CSPAN and that's it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

He sort of already gave away the validity of his claims when he said he didn't mind making them up.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The only surprising part of any of this is that this asshole apologized to her neighbor.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

From her perspective at least, could've easily been "I'm sorry you were offended" or even riddled with slurs for all we know.

Maybe I'm passing judgement too harshly but this fits my mental model of someone who doesn't finish thoroughly searching their house or neighborhood before filing a police report against their neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

And here we are, over a week after the debate. They're still harping on Haitian immigrants in 1 town, while Harris is blazing up the campaign trail, yet polls are still concerningly close.

This is how scary this election is becoming

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

I can’t believe how fucking racist this country is. 20 years ago if a candidate did this, they’d be given the kiss of death by the media and made to drop out.

Hell Howard Dean lost because he screamed funny. This is abhorrent.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As I recall, in terms of the electoral college, neither Biden nor Harris have, at any point, been projected to beat Trump. It's not "becoming" scary, it's been scary for quite some time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

There's no one single model doing projections.

Five Thirty Eight's, which is one prominent one, has favored Harris somewhat for a while.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

Harris wins 64 times out of 100

in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.

Trump wins 36 times out of 100.

There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.

Nate Silver -- who started Five Thirty Eight and is now off doing his own thing and runs a fork of the model that Five Thirty Eight used to run -- had them, last I looked, had Harris and Trump at about about even chances.

Both Silver's model and Five Thirty Eight's model agreed that the debate improved Harris's chances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 56 minutes ago

Five-thirty-eight is a joke. Who did Five-thirty-eight project to win in 2016? Yeah.
Who did professor Allan Lichtman predict to win in 2016? The winner! He uses a strange science technique that have retrospectively lined up with presidential winners since 1860. He has an impressive tract record of ten successful predictions - note he predicted Gore in 2000 but there is very persuasive evidence that Gore actually did win had the vote counts been honestly counted. Hence the Brooks Brothers riot that threw the election to the Supreme Court.
Republicans are now positioning for that to happen again in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Important to note that Nate Silver works for Peter Theil, who has donated heavily to Trump pacs, and is responsible for giving us JD Vance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on Silver working for Thiel?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Interesting.

Tl;Dr: Nate Silver is an "advisor" to Polymarket, a gambling platform based on real world events. Peter Thiel is an investor for Polymarket.

It seems like a stretch to say that "Nate Silver works for Thiel," but it's pretty sad to see Nate Silver working for a likely illegal crypto scam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 54 minutes ago

It seems like a stretch to say that "Nate Silver works for Thiel."

Nate Silver is a paid advisor to a company that Peter Thiel runs, it's not a stretch at all, wake up.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

Also a great example of how fact checking fascists is completely ineffective. Platforming a fascist via a debate does nothing other than legitimize their viewpoints.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

I want to know when that report was filed. "I can't find my cat, therefore my Haitian neighbors stole it to eat" is the kind of statement dreamed up by the utterly deranged, unless the idea was already in the water supply because a vice presidential candidate was saying it in interviews ahead of a national debate.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but now he’s lying again

[–] Assman 1 points 1 hour ago

*creating again

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 hours ago

JD Vance is a lying worthless being.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

We need a political game show akin to "Name that Tune" but called "Dubunk that Claim".

A disclaimer appears at the start of the show and after each commercial break reminding viewers that all claims presented are false.

Contestants hear each claim and buzz in with how many statements they need to debunk the claim and then prove it false. The goal is to debunk the claim in as few statements as possible.

Winner gets bragging rights, and we all win.

[–] Kecessa 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We just need to move people who believe shit like this to another version of the planet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

you're so close

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 hours ago

So a gameshow that has endless material just based on the last 10 years. I like the title Debunk that Trump