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This is absolutely ridiculous. Imagine some fuckers just coming into your room while you're with your SO making love or something.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A hotel confiscating random stuff would be considered theft and the hotel employees arrested in any civilized country.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

The US stopped being civilized a while ago.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How fucking stupid.

“Resorts World Las Vegas is dedicated at all times to ensuring a safe, secure, and comfortable environment for all of our valued guests,” the statement begins. 

Resorts World said the latest policy was established “in light of recent events in Las Vegas, and the increasing ransomware threats to casinos and hotels on the Strip,”

Hard to see this absurd invasion of privacy as being for anything but that last bit. Hope this results in significantly fewer guests, but it feels like the vote-with-your-wallet part of capitalism stopped working some time ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The ransomware threat is coming from INSIDE THE HOTEL!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Room service now!! or kiss your data goodbye

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if somebody does end up pwning them with a ransomware out of spite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your service, good sir.

This is the proper take here, IMHO

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago

I was there. It was really weird. The people doing the inspections didn’t even know what they were looking for. What, a USB drive? It was clear to me that they had a very basic, normal persons understanding of technology.

This was mainly motivated by the MGM hacks so they could show that they were doing something in case they got hacked later for liability.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We have confiscated all the laptops we could find sir. They had a TERMINAL open. Filthy hackers!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume they know what a terminal is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But they were hacking all the IPs simultaneously!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They had 127.0.0.1. That's my IP!!!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

What are you talking about, that's mine scumbag!

Reminds me of the bash.org Napster entry. For posterity:

#104052 + (14264) - [X]
<NES> lol
<NES> I download something from Napster
<NES> And the same guy I downloaded it from starts downloading it from me when I'm done
<NES> I message him and say "What are you doing? I just got that from you"
<NES> "getting my song back fucker"
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

TIL you can set a custom one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well no

127.0.0.1/8 points back to localhost

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

"is that arch Linux?!"

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Barges into room.

Them: “Are you hacking, son?

Me: “No.”

Them: “Cool. I’m just a hotel employee, and I only have understanding of computers at an end-user level. Plus, I see you’re not wearing a hoodie and sunglasses while being hunched over a laptop. Have a nice day and enjoy your stay at the Hilton!”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

most accurate portrait

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People you dont want to piss off:

  1. Mother in-law
  2. Worlds greatest hackers
  3. The IRS
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

For real, this convention has been around for a long time without issue, we should poke the bear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

They should boycott the hotel next time. I'm sure there are plenty of other places that would accept them

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All hotels reserve the right to inspect your room whenever they need to. The privacy sign just means you don’t want room service, it’s not some magical lock.

They’d still knock, not just burst into your room to catch you in flagrante.

That said seeing the black hat conference in this way is daft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention the metal hook lock on most room doors I've seen that can prevent anyone from entering while you're still inside.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every hotel with those has a tool they can use to easily unlatch that lock.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you're in the room you can atleast stop them from doing that rather easily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I mean sure if you wedge the door or something, but then you're just going to get kicked out.

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[–] Anon518 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Your title is terrible. Use the article's title.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not a title, it's an opinion. Having said that, I agree, it's terrible as a title. Fixed (I think).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Agreed. I really dislike editorialised titles.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That sounds like a good way to get their employees shot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like to walk around with a open bathrobe, hope no one walks in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Just put your hands on your hips and smile

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's kind of silly honestly. I can see where they are coming from but the people at the conference are the good guys. If I were them I would get some of those security professionals to give suggestions on how to have better security. Also random room checks aren't going to catch anything. Anyone who wants to cause harm isn't going have such bad opsec. You will end up catching people with legitimate and highly dangerous stuff like routers, network switches and vacuum cleaners

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just FYI, you need very little skill to clone the WiFi access gateway of a hotel WiFi, and then blast their SSID from your router, to lure close guests into your honeypot. Once people are on your malicious gateway, the fun starts.

In a hotel with hundreds of hackers on alcohol, it's not unlikely for people to fuck around.

There is also no requirement to be a "good guy" to attend the conference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is also no requirement to be a "good guy" to attend the conference.

Correct. But it's kind of the inevitable outcome that only "good guys" attend. Why would any bad actor go there and risk being exposed / caught...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Defcon is a useful resource for networking and learning. It being run by and for good guys doesn't mean bad guys don't find the event useful. The vague risk of "getting caught" is probably worth taking, regardless of whether that risk is tangible, especially if they follow proper security practices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

In short, untreated mental illness

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Isn't also a game at defcon to spread a harmless package to as many devices as possible?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully that would get flagged. If you start broadcasting that will show up under rouge ap detection

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Right. And then they locate it and search the rooms nearby. Exactly what their disclaimer is about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

vacuum cleaners

Why would someone bring their own vacuum cleaner in a hotel room?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The automatic vacuum cleaners have lots of security issues and are often a common target at blackhat

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
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