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[–] DudeImMacGyver 56 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Still grossly overvalued.

Remember, this motherfucker bankrupted THREE casinos!

There is no limit to how badly he can fuck up a business.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Its true value is negative.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh, Donnie, NO! Margie, are you going to buy more stock to prop this up for your big wet boy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Reminder that genius investor Marge was also holding the bag on $CRWD during the global outage that happened a while back. So. Much. Winning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Ha, fucking ha.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Someone explain the joke pwease

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s an electron microscope of a violin built with individual atoms, as in “I will play the smallest violin in sympathy”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Did they actually do this? That still looks like it would be a hell of a lot of “individual atoms”

Do we have 3D atom printers? Is that a thing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The scale shows it being 20 microns in width, so it's still pretty big, relative to individual atoms. A micron is 10^-6 meters while the width of a hydrogen atom is about 10^-10 meters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Makes sense, because I've never seen a SEM image like that... I thought it could've been an older model

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

Electron microscope of the worlds smallest violin. A way of mocking other's problems by pretending to pretend to care.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Violins are traditional instruments of cinematic mourning, either as background melody or very famously used literally in Titanic where the orchestra kept playing right up until the ship went down (historically accurate).

Spongebob Squarepants later had a one-off gag where Mr. Krabs wanted to express insincere mourning, so he pulled out a finger-size violin and said something to the effect of "Oh boo hoo. Let me play you a sad song on the world's tiniest violin"

Of course, being Spongebob Squarepants, the gag was executed so flawlessly that it was immediately seamlessly integrated into internet culture.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

People are treating the "dump" part of a "Pump and Dump" like it's some kind of a vindication, when suckers were already fully fleeced back at its $7B market cap peak.

It's a Mastodon instance with a few thousand users trading at $16/share. Absolutely insane that anyone was buying this garbage at any price.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely insane that anyone was buying this garbage at any price.

That bribery money wasn't going to launder itself.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It matters because Trump becomes free to sell his shares on September 19 (a week from today). I, for one, am hoping that the price goes to $0 and it gets delisted by then!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

If he floods the market with shares, I wouldn’t be surprised if the price craters so hard it gets delisted.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Putting aside any feeling you may have for or against Trump, WTF does TMTG do? From what I can tell, it runs Truth Social and is planning to launch a streaming service.

I did some quick googling and Truth Social appears to be a mastodon instance with a non-default backend that is free to use with 600k active monthly users.

Facebook alone (not including other META products) has 2.9 billion active monthly users.

What’s so valuable about it? Sure, they are probably running ads. But why would someone advertise on Truth Social over Facebook? Is the conversion rate somehow better on truth social?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

But why would someone advertise on Truth Social over Facebook?

Because I could sell star spangled shit on a shingle to that lot for a premium.

[–] VirtualOdour 11 points 6 days ago

Oh come on just because we hate Trump doesn't mean we should kid ourselves, there's a lot of value to having access to 600k of the easiest to scam rubes on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

600k active accounts. Maybe half of them are real Americans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Money + laundering of said money = most shit Dump has his name on

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What’s so valuable about it?

It's not. And a lot of people in the industry have pointed out that the valuation is pretty wildly decoupled from potential.

The most compelling argument I've heard is that it's a lot of retail -- small -- investors who politically support Trump and have no idea what they're doing buying into a complicated vehicle because Trump's told them that he's gonna make them rich. I remember some article a while back talking about the high proportion of retail investors.

kagis for an example

https://www.ft.com/content/5fdd8a48-ce51-4e3b-b450-49fce86f37d9

Small investors power Trump Media’s market valuation above $13bn

Heavy trading in company behind Truth Social fuels talk of a new cycle of ‘meme stock mania’

Donald Trump’s Truth Social platform is riding a wave of enthusiasm from small investors as a second day of gains took the lossmaking social media group’s valuation above $13bn.

Trump Media & Technology Group topped the leaderboard of most-discussed stocks in WallStreetBets, Reddit’s popular stock trading forum, for several hours on Wednesday.

“Hate Trump but I knew his minions wouldn’t be able to help themselves the moment the ticker changed. Would’ve doubled down if I had any additional funds,” said WallStreetBets user FlapjackInProtest, who claimed he had turned $500 into $6,000 by trading TMTG options. Others reporting winning bets drew praise. WallStreetBets user optimal_burrito replied to someone who posted that buying Trump Media was their first winning trade with the message: “You’re gonna start winning so much you’ll get sick of it #DJT.”

Honestly, I think that there's some argument that the SEC should do something about people getting burned like this, though I'm sure that if they did, Trump would go into another one of his spiels on being oppressed.

Like, you may not like Trump supporters, but I remember reading some articles about people putting their life savings into this. I mean, it's not gonna be pretty.

[–] ayyy 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

From stock sales? Are they buying directly from the company? If not, I don’t think the company sees the money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

The idea was that the Saudis and Russians pump money into the stock to keep the price propped up until Donny can cash out, but that only works if you have enough cash to backfill the volume ratio as needed. It would work a lot better if they could have been quieter about it, but Trump basically makes billions as long as the price doesn't actually go to zero since his shares are grants for using his "brand."

It's not so much money laundering as a completely legal path for foreign agents to buy favors from a possible US President.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are they buying directly from the company?

Exactly, you guarantee you'll buy shares of my company and I guarantee I'll make decisions that benefit you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Usually you buy from a market maker though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In this scenario the market maker and the briber are the same person.

Market makers only need to be willing to buy like 100 shares, that'd be pretty trivial for people with resources.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

That’s less than $2k… Is the trade volume that low?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s not valued based on any normal metric. It’s pure meme, speculation, cult and money laundering.

I doubt many investors even look at conversion rates.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What’s so valuable about it?

Nothing.

It's a very unusual situation.

It's basically a proxy for a bet on whether Trump will get a second term. That's why it took a dump after the debate didn't go well.

Supporters want to say they have some TMTG shares, and are happy to pay absurd prices for shares without reference to the actual value.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And outside the cult, it's a bet that Truth Social would become a vector for bribing the president of the United States. If people are going to bribe Trump by pumping his share price, you can get a cut.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

TMTG has a huge net operating loss. I think that the way the company is bribed is in investment funds.

However, I don’t think they are bribing him by pumping his share price. IIRC (take this with a hugeeeee grain of salt) the share price is determined by the last transaction price. If you place a market order, it’s the sell prices that would fulfill your order amount. On the other hand, a limit order is fulfilling your order at a set price. It would take consistent investment over time to create enough transactions to keep the stock price high.

Hence, I think TMTG is receiving large cash infusions and Trump is getting paid through bonuses or something similar. Cheaper and more direct

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everybody be on guard. That uncle is about to hit you up for money after they put all of their non-Trump NFT money into DJT stock.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

John Rekenthaler, vice president of research at Morningstar (MORN+0.470%), previously called DJT an “affinity stock” — one that trades on people’s feelings and perceptions of the former president, rather than its business performance. Rekenthaler warned that Trump Media stock would “go to zero or something close to it” if Trump were to lose the presidential election in November.

These new lows come just weeks before Trump will get the green light to offload his 114.75 million shares of Trump Media, or about 60% of the company’s outstanding stock. The Republican presidential hopeful stands to make upwards of $2 billion from the stock sale — although the value of those returns depends on the share price.

I think that it's going to go to "zero or something close to it" once Trump starts bailing out. I don't think that it's going to need to reach the election and have Trump lose.

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[–] Enkers 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder if that's because most of its value is predicated on him being able to gain an unfair advantage due to his potential position in office.

If so, then this is probably a more accurate indicator of his chances in the election than any pollsters.

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